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Poll: best color for control room fabric
Old 3rd June 2002
  #1
Capitol Studios Paris
 
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🎧 15 years
Best color for control room...

I have to admit to having a b**** of a time choosing what fabric color to replace the 10-year old gray fabric in our new control room with.

All of the room except the back wall is 100% fabric, and I have to use expensive Texaa-brand acoustic fabric to maintain the (excellent) room acoustics. The producers and freelance engineers working here all say they'd like a lighter color, like beige. Many other folks say that light colors will quickly look soiled, tired and dirty, esp. around the A/C vents in the ceiling.

I've narrowed it down to the following colors; which would you go with?

* Beige
* Rich bordeaux
* Metallic gray
* Aubergine (a purple that's almost black)

FWIW the 3-way soffit-mounted bigs (Genelec 1025s with ATC domes and Dynaudio tweeters) are in black cabinets and the new floor is maple.

Thanks, guys.

Jon
Old 3rd June 2002
  #2
Capitol Studios Paris
 
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🎧 15 years
This might help...here is a photo from 2 months ago of the totally empty control room...after the old Neve V1 was removed...and before the 9k arrived.

Help me decide, guys!
Old 3rd June 2002
  #3
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Jon is wearing the jacket everybody!

I vote Metalic Grey

I like sterile colors in my big control rooms, and fierce air con that leaves the band blue lipped in the freezer, I mean - control room

(They building jons studio)
Old 3rd June 2002
  #4
There is only one
 
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🎧 15 years
i feel for ya jon, i have been contemplating this same issue for quite sometime... except i dont have to cater to what others want.

personally i prefer darker control rooms. bright ones totally distract me. i was thinking a deep red.

how about blue velvet?
Old 3rd June 2002
  #5
One with big hooves
 
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🎧 15 years
I don't have fabric on my control room walls. They're drywall and painted deep yellow and sponge painted orange on top of that. Very mellow and hip IMHO.

smokin sleep
Old 3rd June 2002
  #6
Gear Nut
 
🎧 15 years
I like the textured wall a lot. (my family room has a similar finish with red-brown, camel, and dark-brown)

Is Jon the son of Doctor Evil?
Old 3rd June 2002
  #7
Lives for gear
 
🎧 15 years
Jon,

I'm personally pretty color challenged, but we just went through this, so here's my 2 cents. If by Rich bordeaux you mean a deep red, that might be damn good looking against that maple floor. Any darker shade of blue would be great with maple also. We have three fabric colors in our rooms, camel (kinda goldish) on the tops of the walls, light grey, and then a darker blue on the bottom. It looks great with our maple floor. We only have one totally fabric wall, the back wall of the control room, surrounding the diffusers. The rest of the walls are covered with modules (8 lb. fibergass panels spaced out from the walls, covered in fabric) of different sizes, so the "tri-tone" look was easy to achieve. Be more expensive to do that with a traditional, fully stretched wall, though. The fabric is made by Knoll Textiles in PA. It is acoustically transparent, and it is (not as) expensive as some others.

I know this sounds stupid, but if you're going for a single color, get a big sample of each one and set it on the console and work for a little while, looking up at it from time to time. Observe the effect on your psychology. Some colors can make you tired, while another might energize you, or even agitate you (and your clients!). This stuff really matters, imho, because it affects most of us on a sub-conscious level, and can influence the way we work.

Randy
Old 7th June 2002
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Jon,

Love those Gennies.. Looks LOUD! ( lol they sound damn good too IMHO)

I would go with Randy on this a deep red or blue would rock, and whatever you do avoid nashville green....


I think lighter colors are going to wear on you and your clients real quick... hospital anyone? it is near impossible for me to create that " I am in a viby cave" feel with light colored walls... may sound silly, but my current place is a beige-brown, and I hate that it is so light.. feels sterile real quick to me...


Good Luck woth the remodel, and great to see you moderating here! nice job
Old 7th June 2002
  #9
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I'm into the darker side of things so... I live in a black fabric room with a blue/purple back wall. Our tracking room is blood red and I can't wait to change it...
Old 8th June 2002
  #10
Motown legend
 
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🎧 15 years
I wouldn't separate the fabric from the lighting.

My preference is for very neutral colors and dimmable colored lighting so that the control room atmosphere can be adjusted over a wide range.

The important thing is being able to make every session feel like a real occasion to the client.
Old 8th June 2002
  #11
One with big hooves
 
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🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally posted by Fibes
I'm into the darker side of things so... I live in a black fabric room with a blue/purple back wall. Our tracking room is blood red and I can't wait to change it...
What color are you going to change it to?
Old 8th June 2002
  #12
Capitol Studios Paris
 
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🎧 15 years
Thanks everyone for your advice.

It is interesting that Jules and Bob vote sterile/neutral, while nearly everyone else likes dark.

Bob, the colored lighting idea is an interesting one. I am adding some 'mood' lighting in the room to complement the variable halogen ceiling spots.

Chris Stone, founder of the three Record Plant studios and of the World Studio Group, author of the invaluable book "The Sound of Money - Audio Recording for Profit", and currently consultant to our facility, had this to say:

"I would go toward the lighter more comfortable colors because they are more cheerful. You can treat the bulk fabric before cutting with a dirt shield such as "Scotch Guard" or whatever is most effective for high traffic areas and then clean with a damp sponge and re-apply the dirt shield if necessary. Around air conditioning vents put a wider wood or metal frame to catch more of the dust. This installation and cleaning exercise should be done by your own people. You should replace the fabric every year or two to give the studio a new look and feel. It is an effective and inexpensive investment."

I'd personally enjoy a deep velvet/blue or red. However, we have to please the artists, A&R and engineers and so I am leaning toward either beige or metallic gray.

FWIW I have deleted the photo in my second post above and am replacing it with the following one, taken informally during a session today...

Thanks everyone and please keep your thoughts and advice coming...

jon
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Old 9th June 2002
  #13
Capitol Studios Paris
 
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🎧 15 years
Bob Ohlsson wrote: "The important thing is being able to make every session feel like a real occasion to the client."

Bob, that is a great thought to keep in mind. Good to see you here!

Steve, thanks for the compliments on the Gennies. For the rumor mill, the team from SSL who installed the 9k had recently done installs in China, Egypt, England and the US, and they were frankly astonished by the sound of the 1025s in our room...they preferred their ref CDs on our bigs over those at any of the installs they could recall...which included Genelec 1035 and 1036 systems (descendants of the 1025). I like the combination of 16" woofers, ATC mid-range superdomes, and Dynaudio tweeters on the 1025s. There are also 3 pairs of 18" sub-woofers L, C and R on the floor below each of the mains. Do they get loud? You betcha.

Last but not least, here's one for the true gearslutz:

Can anyone here successfully identify all five pieces of gear visible in the left wall rack in the photo above?
Old 9th June 2002
  #14
Motown legend
 
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🎧 15 years
It's easy to make a light, neutral room dark using dim colored lights but it's impossible to make a dark, dramatic room become bright and cheerful. The important thing is being able to have it either way in order to suit what's happening.
Old 9th June 2002
  #15
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I am digging what Bob is saying..

It means

A set of white / normal lights

A set of colored lights

The best ever lighting system I ever saw was a unit on the wall that HAD FADERS!

It was a JOY!



I am a lighting NUT.. my place is designed that I can never look ANYWHERE (including up) and have a bulb glareing directly at me.

Old 9th June 2002
  #16
There is only one
 
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🎧 15 years
you cant make a light colored wall dark with lighting. ANY light will show the walls. dark walls disappear in dark lighting. thats MY preference and would choose studios that are decorated in that manner. but you can make dark walls lighter by shining lights on them.

i like caves. not doctor offices.
Old 9th June 2002
  #17
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I had a call from the DEA about your smilie.
spin
Old 10th June 2002
  #18
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🎧 15 years
shoulda told em to go worry about terrorists instead of some pacifist minding his own business smokin <--- this one looks like hes smokin a bowl
Old 10th June 2002
  #19
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🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally posted by Jay Kahrs


What color are you going to change it to?
I'm working on a total retrofit so I'll be a few Quadratic diffusers and walls made of 3/4" birch plywood. I have a bud who works on the docks and can score some Home Depot rejects.


Lighting the space, is above all else, the key. We have a bunch of funky lights from Goodwill and conversely, Ikea that really shape the mood.
Old 11th June 2002
  #20
Gear Maniac
 
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🎧 15 years
Who cares what the colour is, when you've got Herman Millers to sit in!!!

heh heh

Bruce
Old 11th June 2002
  #21
Craneslut
 
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🎧 15 years
Hey jon - when are you going to yank out those awful Gens and put in some Questeds?

(heh, heh)
Old 13th June 2002
  #22
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🎧 15 years
Baw-hahahaha... Freaks...

One thing I do is I keep the lights up when I come in... Dim them a little after I get started, dim them more if the artist/A&R/Producer shows up, dim after dinner, dim, dim, dim, etc.... I get to sleep when I get home. If I start all dark, when I get home arounf 5am I have trouble sleeping...
Old 16th June 2002
  #23
Capitol Studios Paris
 
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🎧 15 years
dfegad Questeds.

(Don't recreational speakers belong in the living room at home?)



What do you guys use at Ardent?
Old 16th June 2002
  #24
Craneslut
 
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🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally posted by jon
What do you guys use at Ardent?
Mainly Questeds. Some custom jobbies as well, but Questeds in general, NS-10's on the bridges...
Old 16th June 2002
  #25
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🎧 15 years
Give PMC speakers a go !!!

they are audiopphile with houge soundstage, depth, bottom and clarity and best of all they translate!

worth the effort just for the sniff IMHO

PEACE
Wiggy
Old 17th June 2002
  #26
One with big hooves
 
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🎧 15 years
Anyone using Pro-Ac's? I've been hearing good things about them.
Old 17th June 2002
  #27
Craneslut
 
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🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally posted by Jay Kahrs
Anyone using Pro-Ac's? I've been hearing good things about them.
Ughhh. No way.

The top end ssssssizzzzles for days...
Old 18th June 2002
  #28
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🎧 15 years
Comfy chairs

At least you got some comfy chairs Jon
Old 18th June 2002
  #29
Capitol Studios Paris
 
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🎧 15 years
Yep, comfort where it matters.

Old 24th August 2002
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red is supposed to make you feel like you haven't been there long. That is whyy all Casinos are red inside. I am redecorating right know and am going with a dark red.

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