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ua 6176 question : overdrive on meters?
Old 2nd June 2003
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ua 6176 question : overdrive on meters?

Hi ,

I own a UA M610 mic pre ...
As you know , there is no metering of any kind on these - I know that the new 6176 box has meters ... I would like to know how easy it really is to overdrive the mic pre section , and without meters on my 610 I don't know how close I am to peaking - I am curious about this and don't always trust my ears. I also recall a review of the 2-610 where the reviewer suggested that the mic pre was easily over-driven.

My questions are to the 6176 owners ...

1) How often do you go into the red on your mic pre meters ? lets say for average vocal recording ?
2) Are you 6176 users seeing that this pre is easier to clip than others in your rack ?

Note that I normally use a LAWSON L251 and I always engage the mic's -10db pad. I also tend to set the 610 gain to +5 .
Old 2nd June 2003
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Normally you can tell how close a mike preamp is to the top from the meters and the position of the input attenuator on the gear it's feeding.

A traditional trick with outboard gear is to patch an oscillator with a reference level tone into it and mark the control positions that give you unity gain.
Old 2nd June 2003
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I think that if you boost the gain you'll be saturating the tone. If you cut the gain you'll have a cleaner sound.

Trust your ears! It's what matters!

I had a 2-610 before and I liked it. I got rid of it though because I couldn't get enough gain before undesirable and loud distortion. I like to hit my comps really hard and squish lots so things didn't work out.

On solid state pres I don't redline. It usually sounds bad.
Old 3rd June 2003
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๐ŸŽง 15 years
with the metering implemented into the 6176 its very easy to handle overdrive! you can switch the meter to preamp-out (610-section), gain-reduction (of the 1176-section) or compressor-out (1176-section).
you can add saturation by using higher input-gain and less output-gain on the 610-section and vice-versa off course!

i've worked with the m610 before and know what you're talkin' about. i had the same problems. since i have the 6176 it's not a problem anymore, but a pleasure to use all the potentialities of this great unit!

hope this helps

roman
Old 3rd June 2003
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Hi Roman and other 6176 users,

Thanks for replying ... but need more clarification ...

Do you find that your 6176 pre is "relatively" easy to clip ... ie do you find that you often have to back the gain down ( ex to -10) to avoid clipping ?... OR do you have to ALWAYS pad your vocal mic to avoid clipping ??

OR perhaps according to your meter , the unit is safely under clipping most of the time ?

Thats the kind of info i'm after ... I am consdiering parting with the m610 to upgrade to the 6176 .

Thanks in advance,
Jlsgear.
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