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Old 3rd February 2009
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Got a C800G today.

Cool mic. I see why it's popular. It really had a color that brought this girls voice forward. It was killer with my api 312 and La3a

Old 3rd February 2009
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Congrats!
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Congrats!
I totally thought of you today when it showed up at the studio. I thought you being a hip hop/R&B guy you'd probably dig it. I really like it, the girl was laying into it hard and it sounded so good, open and alive, and that was through my 1073 and then we plugged it into my vintage 312 and POWW. It sounded so great.

Thanks for the advice on here about the 800
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Thanks for the advice on here about the 800
Glad to help.
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I am beginning to dislike you and your mic collection.

How does it sound paired with your Pacifica and CL1b?

Congrats!
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James now you are just starting to piss me off!heh
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So, ok, while we're on the topic...

James, what does your current mic collection contain?

C'mon - let's hear it. I'm depressed enough as it is cause I have to sell my Bock 151 in order to pay for some windows for our living room.

Make me weep!!!!
Old 3rd February 2009
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dude, sweet. its a great addition to any locker imho.

now tell me you don't record vocals in that box of foam
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Yeah yeah I know. My mic collection has gotten crazy for a guy with mid sized studio:

Wagner U47w
Sony C800G
Neumann U67
Neumann U87
Soundelux E251c

among other things.

The 800 was best with the Pacifica and API. We plugged it into the CL1b at the end of the night and it was just sick how good it sounded. It sounded like a Kelly Clarkson record, incredible detail on top. I used the La3a for most of the night because the mic was new to me and was not familiar with it and the La3a is a no brainer comp, the CL1b can be a bit tricky and I didn't want to deal with it at first because the mic showed up in the middle of a somewhat stressful session so I didn't want to be f'n around to much. But when I did plug it in at the end, everyone in the room gasped, it was that good sounding. That CL1b is a sick puppy for pop.
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Originally Posted by lordmiguel ➑️
now tell me you don't record vocals in that box of foam
lol

Everyone gives me s**t about it. I'm moving out of my building this year so I will be sure to trick out my next booth. Maybe I'm just not hip but we get some great vocal sounds in that crappy little box.
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Damn, I wish I could try one of these mics, let alone own them.
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Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo ➑️

The 800 was best with the Pacifica and API. We plugged it into the CL1b at the end of the night and it was just sick how good it sounded. It sounded like a Kelly Clarkson record, incredible detail on top. I used the La3a for most of the night because the mic was new to me and was not familiar with it and the La3a is a no brainer comp, the CL1b can be a bit tricky and I didn't want to deal with it at first because the mic showed up in the middle of a somewhat stressful session so I didn't want to be f'n around to much. But when I did plug it in at the end, everyone in the room gasped, it was that good sounding. That CL1b is a sick puppy for pop.
Next time if you get a chance try it in omni mode. It sounds best in omni. Also you gotta let it warm up a bit. Its one of the mics that when the tube is cooking it sounds its best.
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Maybe you should try out the Sony for the next Veronica album, I think it would sound great for their voices.
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Next time if you get a chance try it in omni mode. It sounds best in omni. Also you gotta let it warm up a bit. Its one of the mics that when the tube is cooking it sounds its best.
Hey thrill,

What is it about omni tht makes it sound good? Honestly, I don't think I've ever used omni wih vocals.
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Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo ➑️
Cool mic. I see why it's popular. It really had a color that brought this girls voice forward. It was killer with my api 312 and La3a

nice! I'm sure you won't regret! I went to a mic shootout at your place a year or so again and was singing the praises of the C800g but we didn't have one to test. It will be interesting at the next one to see how it holds up since it's usually my goto
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Originally Posted by James 'LA' Lugo ➑️
Hey thrill,

What is it about omni tht makes it sound good? Honestly, I don't think I've ever used omni wih vocals.
To my ears it opens it up and makes it less grainy & or gritty. Also omni takes away the proximity effect that on the C800G i never found flattering. Works just as well on U87's. Its like having a new mic . Makes it sound more like what you paid for.

Its also great for singers who tend to move around and not stand in the same place when recording because the off axis response is pretty uniform through out.

The biggest drawback is you need a good sounding room or have it baffled nicely. Not too tight and not too roomy. Also hopefully no weird noises going on.
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lol

Everyone gives me s**t about it. I'm moving out of my building this year so I will be sure to trick out my next booth. Maybe I'm just not hip but we get some great vocal sounds in that crappy little box.
trust me, i'd love to take the extra space back with a smaller booth. many artists hate being watched anyway. and besides, they never totally asphyxiate in those anyways, just get really red in the face

searching for that wagner thread now....

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Originally Posted by thethrillfactor ➑️
Next time if you get a chance try it in omni mode. It sounds best in omni. Also you gotta let it warm up a bit. Its one of the mics that when the tube is cooking it sounds its best.
omni....im going out on a limb here and guessing you haven't worked in an auralex closet recently heh but really ive found the omni improvement elusive in most booths....or maybe its me and i have childhood booth issues.
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Recently took a C800G and a killer sounding Neumann U47 (vf14, m7) to a friend's place to see which sounded best for a young female singer he was going to produce.

The Sony stayed for the duration of the sessions. It had clarity, detail and a modern sound without eq that the 47 just couldn't match.
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omni....im going out on a limb here and guessing you haven't worked in an auralex closet recently heh but really ive found the omni improvement elusive in most booths....or maybe its me and i have childhood booth issues.
Hey to go out further on that limb with you, if i walked into a booth that was all Auralex i would literally throw gasoline on it and burn it all down.

Seriously though try it. Sometimes it works in a smaller room & sometimes it sounds like pure death. Personally if to my ears the booth is influencing the midrange i would yank the singer out of it and just record in the control room & monitor with headphones. To EQ out the room in the midrange of a vocal is so difficult, especially when people expect the vocal to be pushed forward and sit present in the mix.
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dude, sweet. its a great addition to any locker imho.

now tell me you don't record vocals in that box of foam
hahahahaah, exactly what I was thinking LMAO!

I saw the 47, and the c800 but then I saw the foam......ohh boy!

Immediately though, "why doesn't he get some good diffusers?
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Hey to go out further on that limb with you, if i walked into a booth that was all Auralex i would literally throw gasoline on it and burn it all down.

Seriously though try it. Sometimes it works in a smaller room & sometimes it sounds like pure death. Personally if to my ears the booth is influencing the midrange i would yank the singer out of it and just record in the control room & monitor with headphones. To EQ out the room in the midrange of a vocal is so difficult, especially when people expect the vocal to be pushed forward and sit present in the mix.
Agreed! 200%
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Seriously though try it.
no i def have tried it, ill make a point to move it back from the glass a bit next time the mic comes out.

man, vox in the cr - i spend all day trying to disengage from people in this nutjob city... inviting them to blow down my neck with their dry garlic singing breath is like rush hour in the subway. what im scared of is if it actually works.
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what im scared of is if it actually works.
To be honest i only do it with certain vocalists namely females.

The rappers can stay in the booth.

And nothing makes your day, then after a long work day going into the vocal booth & having to smell the pop filters when you have to take them down.
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The rappers can stay in the booth.

And nothing makes your day, then after a long work day going into the vocal booth & having to smell the pop filters when you have to take them down.
now we're definitely back on topic w/ c800g and, in fact, if there was any other mic that could attract such offensive breath to the studio as this i'd like to know. the flight case needs to come with a space for holding tic tacs.
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To be honest i only do it with certain vocalists namely females.

The rappers can stay in the booth.

And nothing makes your day, then after a long work day going into the vocal booth & having to smell the pop filters when you have to take them down.
You should use metal filters in that case . easy to wash them after sessions .
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You should use metal filters in that case . easy to wash them after sessions .
Sounds like what a dentist would do.

Anyway i have 2 words for you:

Febreze and Carpet Fresh.

The 2 modern marvels for the studio. I think without them i would literally die in the studio work environment.
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Hey to go out further on that limb with you, if i walked into a booth that was all Auralex i would literally throw gasoline on it and burn it all down.

Seriously though try it. Sometimes it works in a smaller room & sometimes it sounds like pure death. Personally if to my ears the booth is influencing the midrange i would yank the singer out of it and just record in the control room & monitor with headphones. To EQ out the room in the midrange of a vocal is so difficult, especially when people expect the vocal to be pushed forward and sit present in the mix.
right on.

i hate little, foam-lined booths, especially for vocals.

out in the live room with care taken with placement and baffling or in the control room.
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I'll trade you a case of Owens Corning 703 if you can hook me up with Chelsea Handler. Don't act like you can't do it. I saw that episode.
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Congrats, James! I want one too
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Congrats James!!
For R&B or pop vocal production the best chain is:
Sony C800G > Neve 1073 > Tube Tech CL-1B.

And for good measure if you try the new pop filter from Pete's Place, it completely takes away any proximity effect problem Thrill was talking about. It's without a doubt the best pop filter I have ever used.
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