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Old 25th January 2009
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Best mic/preamp combo

Just wondering if anyone can help me, I'm looking to spend about £1300 on a new mic setup, it's mainly going to be used for recording rap vocals. I was thinking the Blue Kiwi and the Focusrite Isa 1, any other suggestions...
Old 25th January 2009
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i know many will disagree, but i can record rap (or any vocals for that matter..)
useing a 57 into a cassette dek mic pre that costs nothing.
done carefully the normal consumer wouldnt know the difference.
try it sometime.
if you disagree...heres an interesting experiment.
get a bunch of normal consumers in a room , play back a recording of vocs done
useing say a hi end mic into a hi end pre.
rent if you dont have such.
then repeat with 57 into a cassette dek mic pre.
the key is to condition the vocs after recording.
on my motagator site..some vocs used all hi end while others used
57/cass pre or diy pre i build. see if you can tell which is which.

sorry but i have very strong views bout gear.
if you doubt me i'll even post a likkle vocal rap as an attachment if you wish.
with the 57/cass pre no cost approach.

for example the song summer used a el cheapo mp plus 57 n cass pre
on the vocs on the song.

but if you really wanna spend the buks...i would look into a 57 into a jlmaudio.com mic pre.
lots of folks like the jlm pre's. mebe try one ?? very interesting product imho.
or say a great river mic pre. run tests once again/rent before buying.
seriously ...testing before buying is the way to go.
some AE's say the dacs mic pre is superb..made in uk.
but very expensive.
god bless from an english bloke whose been around the gear block.
Old 25th January 2009
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Originally Posted by Skilf ➡️
Just wondering if anyone can help me, I'm looking to spend about £1300 on a new mic setup, it's mainly going to be used for recording rap vocals. I was thinking the Blue Kiwi and the Focusrite Isa 1, any other suggestions...
The 'best set up' is the one that you most like the sound of with your voice. It's subjective both in respect of what your voice sounds like and what quality you like to be brought out. This kind of question will get a list of other peoples favourite pieces for their voice from home studio users and pros asking you what flavour of chocolate you like best. You need to take the time testing mics to see which you like if it is for your voice.
Old 25th January 2009 | Show parent
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Notwithstanding what Trev has said, which is good advice (including the bit about polishing a turd), there is also the issue of budget (or rather, a lack of it...).

The thread title cites the absolute goal "Best mic/preamp combo" but that's way inconsistent with looking to spend about £1300. I'm afraid you're not particularly likely to get either the best mic or the best pre alone (best in general or even "best for your particular voice") within that budget, let alone both.
Old 25th January 2009 | Show parent
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addendum to my post....
(agree 100 per cent bout testing/renting ?? lotsa solutions.)
for fun heres a likkle comical vocal rap done in cokney.
lyrics made up while recording.
57 into cassette pre. no cost. cept for 57.
i screwed up a bit but you get the idea.
twas eatin me breakfast at the time. done fast.
no conditioning , just a smidge of fx on vocs.

i would be interested to hear someone repeat ..
use same lyrics if you wish...thru a 3k chain or wotever.
to compare.
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mumrap.mp3 (297.6 KB, 1943 views)

Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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Cheers for the advice guys, I think I'm gonna go for a Brauner Phantom Classic and a Focusrite Isa 1. Heard good things about both bits of kit. That 'cockney' clip was class! The recording did actually sound pretty good as well, but I'm just feeling to splash out on some top gear and make the investment...


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Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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re cockney..twas just a bit of fun for giggles.
i gotta admit, i'm a bit surprised you didnt check out the jlmaudio pre's.
sadly i cant afford one yet..., but ive seen so many good comments bout em
from lots of people. i'm thinking bout one.

a forum you might find interesting re mic pre's also is...prodigy pro...
DIY - Index
there are some very fascinating heavy electronics engineering folks on there.
i have a fair electronics background...but the prodigy users amaze me with their knowledge.
also lots of circuit discussions etc.
always discussing various mic pre n other topologies.
you might find it interesting to peruse sometime.

frankly i'm in love with an audient console right now.. but cant afford one.
made in wales if i remember.

god bless.
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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i tried the isa one and didn't like it for rap, just nothing special and the impedance switch didn't help much

Try and save a bit more and get a api 512c in a lunch box
and run a shure sm7b into that . that should be close to your budget and will be better than the isa for rap.
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