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Old 11th February 2003
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AMEK 2520

Hi..

As much as i hate to break a promise... being i was NOT going to buy any gear this year.. the gear jones have caught up with me!

I have founda killer deal on an AMEK 2520 that is almost TOO good to pass up... so i need the help of fellow slutz to help me make my mind up..(which im prolly sure im gona buy it cos im the worlds worst gear *****)

So was it like?

how is the EQ?..... i mean i was bought up on 1073's so i know there is going to be a distinct and obvious difference, but in what way?.. i ahve heard that this range of comnsoles was the one that made AMEK noticed for its EQ?.... any thoughts or opinions?

How is the headroom?.. i like to run things hot and cant handle stuff that is gona **** itself.. how will it compare?

What about maintenance?.. are they buggers to maintian and what goes on them regularly?

any info greatly appreciated!

PEACE
Wiggy
Old 11th February 2003
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🎧 15 years
Re: AMEK 2520

My experience is with the Amek 2500.
I'm not sure of what the difference is between a 2500 and a 2520.

The 2500 EQ is a fairly nice, 4 band parametric (1st and 4th bands switchable to shelving) with additional adjustable hi and low pass filters. IIRC, the bands are paired identical in frequency coverage. They have worked great for my needs.

When working as shelving equalizers, the eq can be very nice sounding.
Of course, if i need to do "surgery" to a track, the 2500 eq can do quite a job.
Sometimes i will want something a bit different, and reach for something like an old Lang EQ. Sometimes i'll complement the Lang with the onboard eq to get the sound i'm looking for. Overall it is a great eq. Personally, i try to use the least amount of eq possible in any application, but if you happen to need it, you will probably be satisfied by these eq's.

My only complaint would be that the headroom into the eq can run a bit low (and the eq has a nice little overload light to let you know when your getting there) with my typical tape tracking "volume" and line input at unity, so sometimes a touch of attenuation is needed. Not all that much different from other consoles.
As you would expect, the EQ can sound bad when hit too hard, but it can be fairly easily avoided by paying attention to your gain.

Overall headroom is decent. When i first started working with this board, i would find myself pegging the meters "flat to 3" during setup of roughs.
It takes a decent bit of gain to get it distorting in the 2-buss, and you would have to work fairly hard to get it to do so. If anything, it can get a bit aggressive (not ****ty, pretty cool actually) at certain operating levels, which i tend to like.

The Pre-amps are fairly useful. Not amazing, but not complete **** either.
I wouldn't feel bad about tracking a rock band through them, and i have done just that on many occassions. Of course, your opinion may differ.

As far as things breaking goes, It's loaded with tlo(74's?72's..can't remember) so your kinda ****ed there. have a tech look it over before you buy it. And get friendly with a tech that can work on it. The console i work with hasn't had many problems at all, aside from replacing chips, and you can do that yourself if you feel comfortable enough. Perhaps try John Klett's forum at PSW and ask the techs what they think. They have given me some good info in the past about the desk, and most of em seemed to like it as well!

Overall, it is a nice sounding desk, providing it is in good shape, i doubt you would be disapointed.


Good luck,
Old 11th February 2003
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I worked for 2 years on a Hendrix which may have had a similar eq (?) That had a bass end EQ that was very good. The previous desk in that studio was an MCI 500 series, with little bass EQ control to speak of but was a better sounding desk overall.. but what can ya do? It was falling to bit's and the owner need more channels for 'midi'.



I have also worked on a 2500 tracking, (on many occaisions) always using my outboard pre's. Always satisfied with the results.
Old 11th February 2003
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Re: AMEK 2520

Quote:
Originally posted by Wiggy Neve Slut

I have founda killer deal on an AMEK 2520 that is almost TOO good to pass up... so i need the help of fellow slutz to help me make my mind up..(which im prolly sure im gona buy it cos im the worlds worst gear *****)

So was it like?

What about maintenance?.. are they buggers to maintian and what goes on them regularly?
Give the folks at Funky Junk in London a call (or email). When I was looking for a used console, the early AMEK was a consideration. I ended up with a Trident Series 70 instead. I think the 2500 was a maintenance problem and if I remember, there was something about the frame being too light for all the channels and the sagging caused additional problems over time.
Old 11th February 2003
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I have only ever worked on two AMEK desks that I thought were worth a ****... the 9098i, and the 2520 [never worked on a 2500... but I have been sentenced to endure most of the crap in the "dead guy series" (Hendrix, Mozart, Galileo, etc), and their totally ****ing unusable **** like the "BIG" and the "Angela" and the "Scorpion"].

The good news i that I absolutely loved the tone of the 2520... the bad news is that they're a bitch to keep running. The one I had was just wall to wall problems [sold it to a "tech" friend who has the skills, parts, and most of all patience to keep it running].

It had a problem with the frame [lean on the desk, lose 4 channels, get another 4 to start working again]... **** like that.

If you walk into it knowing that you're likely to spend as much time "under it" as infront of it [sorta like a Fiat or a "pre-Ford" Jaguar]... it's a cool ride...
Old 12th February 2003
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Thanx for the replies everyone...

I have a feeling that there is some 'channel' problems that will need to be rectified and if any most of the problems i ahve been told about are mainly witch related.

I think i aa gona get it cos its way too cool to pass up and its a song.. nd besides i wouldnt mind 'a project' to learn how to fix a few thigns etc as its time i got handy with a soldering iron again and learnt how things really do work!

I am booking a session in on it next week so i can go throught the channels one by one and ascertain what is worng with each channel, also it will give me an idea of how it works and more importantly how it sounds.... i may even post some pics for u if ur interested?

***BTW are tehse transfomer coupled or not?

Cheers
Wiggy
Old 12th February 2003
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Quote:
i may even post some pics for u if ur interested?
Please do - I love the pics - gear porn for gearslutz!
Old 12th February 2003
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I did a bit of research:

Apparently the 2520 WAS derived from the 2500.
Supposedly the Eq was the same as on the APC (derived from the EQ on the 2500), but the 2500 was a bit simpler. (some folks regard it to be better, you may or may not)

The Mic amps are generally the same, but the 2520 has an IC option.
The Mix buss of the 2500 is unbalanced, where the 2520 MAY be balanced.
(i don't know for sure)

The current incaranation of the 2520 is the Amek Galileo, but with a Rupert Neve mic amp.
Old 13th February 2003
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Amek Einstein

I will be working at a studio that has an Amek Einstein "Super E." Any opinions on this model? Fletcher, is it one of the "crap" ones?
Old 13th February 2003
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Well... I haven't heard about "Einstein" being alive recently... so I reckon he must be dead... which would put that desk squarely into the "dead guy series console" category... and I've never heard a "dead guy series console" that I ever liked... so I guess you can extrapolate my opinion from there...

Fortunately for you... my opinion doesn't mean **** in the context of your current endeavors... so... carry on!! ... and have fun with it.
Old 13th February 2003
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Thanks a lot, guys . . . it sounds like it will be suitable if I know how to use it.
Old 14th February 2003
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You can say that about anything.
Old 15th February 2003
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How to misuse it, I mean.
Old 31st July 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiggy Neve Slut ➡️
Hi..

I have founda killer deal on an AMEK 2520 that is almost TOO good to pass up...
hey Wiggy.
I know this was in the way-back-when and you're on the other side of the pond but would you care to divulge how 'killer' the deal was? Just gathering info, not from the IRS, promise.
Win
Old 3rd August 2008 | Show parent
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£2000 or according to current FX rates $5000 AUD.. but a few of the plasma bar graphs were cactus.. ie not replaceable due to no parts etc...

Hope it helped

Wiggy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiggy Neve Slut ➡️
£2000 or according to current FX rates $5000 AUD.. but a few of the plasma bar graphs were cactus.. ie not replaceable due to no parts etc...

Hope it helped

Wiggy
Wow!

And, sorry I see you're on my side of the pond!

W
Old 3rd August 2008 | Show parent
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slipperman..

2500b... thumbsup



get some
Old 4th August 2008 | Show parent
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Has anyone used an Amek M1000?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletcher ➡️
I have only ever worked on two AMEK desks that I thought were worth a ****... the 9098i, and the 2520 [never worked on a 2500... but I have been sentenced to endure most of the crap in the "dead guy series" (Hendrix, Mozart, Galileo, etc), and their totally ****ing unusable **** like the "BIG" and the "Angela" and the "Scorpion".
In all fairness, it must be pointed out that you can bring these desks up to date by buying new (and far quieter) mic pres here -

Audio Maintenance Limited Electronic Products

And Colin at AML will help you upgrade and recap the eq as well.
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I had a 2500 for about 14 years. I think it was made in 83' or so, 48 frame. The service guy used to hand me a bag with chips to replace whatever just died, 'cause there was always some channel blowing up. Never buy one without the serviceextender!!.The Sound of it I find always a kind of wooly, and the Automation was a nightmare. Gave it away 2 years ago, never looked back.It wasn't the greatest period of Mixing desks in IMHO.
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Hi
If your channels were 'always blowing up' then it suggests something wrong with your installation as there is nothing 'fancy' in these desks to be seriously unreliable and the circuits and components are 'industry standard', meaning they were used by the bucketload in most other manufacturers products of the time.
Matt S
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Kappi, was your former M2500 fitted with 24 M2000 channels, M2000 mastersection + 12 M2500S stereos, 2x CL01 Limiters, bigger armrest than other seriesmodels and four ADR gainreduction meters in the meterbridge?
If so then it found it´s new home here. I´ve been told that my desk has lived pretty long in Cologne before, that´s why I´m asking.
Old 7th August 2008 | Show parent
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Blowing up means, that i had to replace a certain chip on the channelcard once in a while.(had a bag full op them). It had a double powersupply with some soldering issues in one of the units( maybe a bad one). It was never switched off, except whilst moving to another place, and the guy who serviced it has a good Reputation around here, he wasn't too excited about it technically.
Beside of that it made some hit records with me so i don't feel like beating it too much. All i wanted to say , that you have to be careful with theese. Like Fletcher said...,you spend some time under it. :0)....
Old 7th August 2008 | Show parent
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Send me a note & address...i have some of the original sales/tech info
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