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Old 1st January 2003
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Avalon AD2022

I'm in the market to purchase a nice preamp and have read every review possible on the high-end stuff; from the Manleys, Avalon, Great River, Neve (and clones), AMEK, and others. I've searched the DUC, this conference, and several others to see what other people have to say about the various pre-amps.

Unfortunately, I live in Toledo, Ohio and there isn't ANYWHERE within 100 miles that rents, loans, try-before-you-buy, or carries the high-end stuff.

I have a project studio that is really focused on one female artist. We track piano and do sampling through a Korg Triton ProX and track guitars (primarily acoustic), bass, and drums (real). We've been known to track cello and violin (real) as well. She has a strong voice and headroom is necessary. She is in the mid-range but can go very alto and very soprano.

I'm more interested in a two-channel unit because I'd like to run the Korg through it when not doing vocals. I also like to double mic vocals and blend the two.

So, I've read some great things about the Avalon AD2022 but rarely hear anyone refer to them in the user conferences. I'm looking for a transparent pre and eventually compressor.

Anyone have any experience with the AD2022? If so, what is your opinion. I don't want to spend $2700 and find that I could have spent less to get the same quality. I'm also not looking for the preamp du jour. I want something that will last for a long time.

Thanks for your assistance,
Mark
Old 2nd January 2003
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Unfortunately, I live in Toledo, Ohio and there isn't ANYWHERE within 100 miles that rents, loans, try-before-you-buy, or carries the high-end stuff.
Nonsense.. If you can't get a demo unit sent to you by the manufacturer/distributor, you should be able to buy it, try it and return it if you don't like it. . . if you deal with a good shop . . . and if you don't mess it up.tut

-dave
Old 2nd January 2003
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Actually, this is incorrect. The merchants in THIS area have no interest in carrying high-end gear. The majority of what is sold here is Behringer, Mackie, and Peavey. The two merchants that formerly rented gear got out of it because the gear would never come back or would come back damaged. It became too costly.

There is a Guitar Center 50 miles north, but they don't carry Avalon's, Vipres. Great River, etc. The one merchant in town that "carries" Avalon and the others doesn't stock them and has a very stingy return policy. He's considering getting out of the retail business in this area because he's doing so well with live music, video production, etc.

Anyway, looking for some people that have experience with the Avalon, not a discussion about what's available, or not, in the area.

Thanks!
Mark
Old 2nd January 2003
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I have one and I think it's a great pre that is warm and transparent. I use on overheads, acoustics, pianos, and run keyboards thru it for overdubs sometimes.

However I got mine at a deal; I think they go for over $2K don't they? Let me know if you are buying one; I can hook U up with a guy that has the best prices on them.
Old 2nd January 2003
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I tried a M5, the same as a 2022, minus the balanced out jensen transformer, for quite a while. I ended up with a vt737 that I'm happy with. I am going into a Digi 192i/o ADDA.
Not knowing what mics or what ADs you have and are using, it may be difficult to give a accurate opinion. However, I am somewhat of a believer in putting a tube in the path or a colored Pre, unless you have an amazing mic/AD chain already. I could be completely wrong on the theory, but an amazingly transparent mic pre like the 2022 may only magnify less than superior mics or less than superior ADs, or something else weak in the chain?! I also just think that is a problem digital "project" studios (assuming your's is as well) are facing, not having enough natural compression, even order distortion, inaccuracies, and all the other things that are pleasing to our ears, etc.

I plan on buying a pair of pre's soon, and I'm thinking about the UA 2-610, or a Neve type preamp pair. just some thoughts...
Old 2nd January 2003
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I like the 2022 and the M5. Great transparency and depth without being cold/sterile. Highly recommended if that's what you want. Do a search, there were a couple of threads about this in the past. Good luck!
Old 2nd January 2003
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Try a rental house that'd ship it to you. Toy Specialists or Dreamhire come to mind. I bought a used piece from Bill at Toy Specialists. No problems at all. Never done business with Dreamhire. Both have Avalon gear for rent, but I don't know if either has the 2022.
Old 2nd January 2003
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Dingo's suggestion is a good one. You can rent other stuff from them while you're at it to compare.... I know, I know... no more discussion about availability in your area fuuck

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I don't want to spend $2700 and find that I could have spent less to get the same quality.
****, I can't resist. who knows what you might think is "quality" ... if you really want to avoid the experience you describe above, you really must "buy and try" them ... maybe from a dealer outside your area.... nice folks like:

Mercenary Audio
Sweetwater

pop it on your credit card, have one shipped out to you and only be on the line for some shipping expenses since you can return it, unharmed for a refund if you don't like it. (Ask and make sure, but in my experience this is an expected part of the gear-purchase-process)

Or simply contact Avalon Design themselves.. They might have a demo unit or a distributor who has a demo unit...

Form your own opinion...

ok, I'm done.

As to the 2022 itself, I personally think it's great. Smooth, clear and relatively transparent sounding .. very detail revealing... impedance adjustability is very useful, the DI inputs are really nice on it.. has great headroom, and it looks purty. The only thing it "lacks" is the option for 130v inputs for high-voltage B&K (DPA) mics, but not many preamps have that either, and you may not need it anyway.

-dave
Old 2nd January 2003
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Neither rent AD 2022 only the 737. Dreamhire rents the M5 which is close to the 2022. I may look into that.
Old 3rd January 2003
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If you do get one don't spend $2700 on it! email me first...
Old 3rd January 2003
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Thanks for all of your replies!

JHO, I'll touch base with you when we're ready to purchase it

Mark
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