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Old 14th June 2002
  #1
Monitors

What are you guys using for Near, Mid or Farfield monitors.

I am using a pair of ADAM S3As (still waiting for 3 more to complete the surround setup) and I am very happy with them. Just did two different tracking sessions over the last 4 weeks, one modern rock band with real drums, loud guitars and loud vocals and now I am recording an all acoustic act with acoustic guitars, lots of real percussion and very dynamic (female) vocals. The ADAMs sound great on both type of sessions and made it very easy for me to get the sounds I was looking for. The few mixes I did on them so far turned out great and translated perfectly from the studio to any outside stereo system. The mixes for the two different sessions are coming up, starting next week, I'm really looking forward to those.
Old 14th June 2002
  #2
Gear Head
 
🎧 15 years
Michael,

Did you get to use the ADAMs on the new Dokken record? I think you did a great job on it. Most new rock records sound like crap to me, but this record was nice and fat with some dynamics. What a breath of fresh air! Thanks for making a band I enjoy listening to actually sound like what I imagined it could be and more.

Jack

p.s. I loved the verbs on this album. Were they the m6000?
Old 14th June 2002
  #3
Gear Head
 
🎧 15 years
I am using Mackie HR824's . I am very happy with them for now but I would love a pair of ADAMs. Let us know how the surround setup is once you have them.
Old 14th June 2002
  #4
Allen

thanx for the kind words, I'm glad you like the album (are they still called albums?)

No, I didn't have the ADAMs yet, it was mixed on KRK E8s and a M&K 5410 sub. I'm absolutely certain that if i had the ADAMs then, the mix would have taken half the time.

The Dokken stuff actually was a bit of a challenge. It was recorded on ProTools in five different places and not always by "real" engineers:grudge. Sometimes I had 3 different mics and rooms on a single vocal track, so the automated EQ on the little Sony board came in very handy and everything worked out in the end.

I'm not a fan of "overcompression" or "louder is better" and I try to stick to the "dynamic" approach when mixing.

The reverbs came from the T.C. M6000 with the occasional plate from the Lexicon PCM 90.
Old 14th June 2002
  #5
Gear Maniac
 
🎧 15 years
Sundholm Monitors

I wish you could all hear Sundholm Monitors. http://www.sundholm-acoustics.com/ I have been using the ones with the 8" drivers for about 3 years now and they are by far the easiest monitors to mix on I have ever encountered. They are hand built in Portland,OR by Conrad Sundholm and most of the independent producers around here use them now. All of the engineers I know who have used them really like how they sound.

The best part about Sundholm monitors is that mixes translate to the outside world perfectly. I actually believe this. Whenever I mix on these, I have total confidence that my mixes will work on almost any system. I have almost completely stopped checking my mixes on other systems. I just don't need to.

The other thing that is great about these monitors is that they are not that expensive. A completely decked out system including a power amp and sub will be about half the price of these Adam monitors everyone is trying to buy. You really should give them a try if you are looking for monitors.


BTW, I don't work for Sundholm or recieve any kind of kickback from them. I just believe that they make a fantastic product.
Old 14th June 2002
  #6
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🎧 15 years
Mains = Auxburgers with TAD compenents, Yamaha Amps
Near Fields = NS-10s and Auratones, Bryston Amps

I recently heard some PCM near fields... I was blown away, but they are quite expensive.
Old 14th June 2002
  #7
Moderator emeritus
 
🎧 15 years
Dynaudio BM15A's and Tannoy 6.5's for low resolution monitoring.
Old 15th June 2002
  #8
Gear Maniac
 
🎧 15 years
I am currnently auditioning a pair of SLS s8r. http://www.slsloudspeakers.com/s8r.html
so far I like what I hear.

Richard
Old 15th June 2002
  #9
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I'm using 1031a's and ns-10s with a pair of Alesis Monitor II's as studio playback. Those those damn ADAMs are calling.
drew
Old 15th June 2002
  #10
Gear Maniac
 
🎧 15 years
Alvin - please do tell more about the Sundholm monitors

Too bad they arent active - yet they smaller version is quite cheap!

Which model do you have, and what do you run for an amp with them?

Do you use another pair as well?

thanks,
Old 15th June 2002
  #11
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🎧 15 years
i share your passion about the ADAM S3-A's MW. they are just incredible. blows away every other speaker i have ever heard and mixing on them is a dream come true. tracking is pretty ****ing good too. had em now for a year and still love em as much as the day i got em.

surround S3-A's, good gawd. im envious. im wanting a pair of S4-C's for a listening room, gotta start playing the lottery.

so MW, you have yours horizontal or vertical? i had mine vertical for the life ive owned them until a few weeks ago. i think im going back vertical again.

and it really doesnt matter what kind of program your put through them, as long as it sounds good. bad mixes sound horribly poor.
Old 15th June 2002
  #12
Gear Maniac
 
🎧 15 years
Jay

I will tell you a little history of Sundholm first. Conrad Sundholm got his start building speakers long ago when his brother needed a PA system for his band The Kingsmen. You remember, the guys who played Louie Louie. He then started an amplifier company called Sunn, which he later sold to Fender. After this, he created a company called Biamp, which he also sold. He then started a company called Sundholm that made some very large power amps. If you went to many shows in the early 80's you probably saw his amps being used on the subs. They were big and bulletproof.

Conrad now builds studio monitors and I think they are the best kept secret in the recording industry. He was working on getting distribution with Guitar Center, but that deal didn't work out. He is still making all of them by hand in his shop.

While I use and love the large mid field monitors, I have also used the small near fields and I enjoyed them just as much. Those little nearfields are the flattest studio monitor on the market. The 6.5's are very popular, but I did not enjoy them as much as the other monitors he offers. To power them, Conrad sells a custom modified Parasound amp that is a perfect match with his monitors. It is also fairly inexpensive.

I would love to see some of you contact Mr Sundholm and check out his monitors. He is a gentleman with a rich history in the music business and he has some fine products to offer. Everyone I have ever convinced to listen to his monitors has bought a pair. You may be amazed at how well your mixes translate outside of the studio.
Old 15th June 2002
  #13
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🎧 15 years
Near fields are Tannoy PBM6.5II. The midfield/mains are Mackie HR824's. I wanted the BM15's but I couldn't afford them and I got a great deal on the Mackies. I also like the mono speaker on my A80 at the back of the room so much that I took down my Minimus 7's.
Old 15th June 2002
  #14
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Westlake BBSM-6s with Parasound amplification and Yamaha NS-10Ms with H/K amplification. The Westlakes are in near-field soffit-mounts using their speaker muffs and the Yamahas are on stands just behind the meterbridge.
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Old 15th June 2002
  #15
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🎧 15 years
KRK V8s as primaries... Yorkville YSM-1s (powered by a Hafler P3000) as secondaries........

Bruce
Old 15th June 2002
  #16
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🎧 15 years
nearfields : Dynaudio BM15 A / BX-30 sub both for stereo setup and surround (5.1)

mid / main : Genelec 1038 stereo setup only

work like 80 % of the time on the dynaudio's. In stereo I rarely connect the BX-30 sub. I love my dynaudio's ...; I am completely confident with them and I know that if I get it to sound right on them it sounds right everywhere. Which is one of the most important things with whatever you work on ... you have to feel confident with them. That and the fact that I can work for hours without getting tired on them. The Genelecs are great to switch to and have them punch for a little while ...
Old 16th June 2002
  #17
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Adam S4A-C midfield/mains & Ghetto blaster (Sony) with 2 x RCA inputs

The ghetto blaster is crucial at mixdown for me. I basicaly mix "through it"

It is also my main choice for 'ask the band' playbacks.

Old 16th June 2002
  #18
jon
Capitol Studios Paris
 
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🎧 15 years
Jules, I'd enjoy hearing your ADAMs at the Library next time I'm in town. Nobody has any around here.

NS10s are my near/mids of choice, with the occasional check on the Auratones and the end-of-mix check on the little Sony blaster (I actually spent a few hours comparing $80 mid-level blasters to get one with decent mediums).

FWIW I've got a pair of BM15As and a BX30 sub available for sale -- perfect condition.
Old 16th June 2002
  #19
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🎧 15 years
I pipe it into the tv in the lounge instead of the audio from the Playstation which drives me nuts.
drew
Old 16th June 2002
  #20
Quote:
Originally posted by alphajerk
so MW, you have yours horizontal or vertical? i had mine vertical for the life ive owned them until a few weeks ago. i think im going back vertical again.
got them horizontal, seems to sound wider in my room.

I'm still dfegad myself over your answer on the Expert forum to the guy with the line 6heh
Old 16th June 2002
  #21
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🎧 15 years
thats only the TIP of the iceberg with that prick . apparently his logic far outweighs reality on many fronts. i got an email from someone about him on another board, seriously dillusional.

excerpt from the email:
Some of the things he said on the AW list were just priceless. He said he could hear the difference between soldered connections and those made with just plastic connectors and that the plastic ones sounded better. He says you absolutely must have gold connectors on your speakers and outboard gear or else your sound is ****ed whether you realize it or not. He bought a Waves card for his Yamaha but sent it back, saying that even when the unit is being bypassed that it "veils" the sound. No one else noticed this, but he says they are all wrong. He also said never to use compression on anything, ever, because it "ruins the sound". I mean the guy is a certified megalomaniac nutball. Now he's starting in on the ADAM's doing the same
thing... sending it back to the company saying the cones need to be redone or they need more design work, just like he did with Waves, and his opinion is the final word on everything.
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i wonder if he ever "broke in" the speakers before he came to his wonderful conclusion? and to tell ya the damn truth, fresh drivers are when the drivers are best... some claim its after they have broken in a bit and "sweetened" up, but i like virgin drivers. i have been pummeling mine for like a full year now and they are certainly "sweetening" out now.

dfegad man, im not getting the feedback from my line6 [which is better than the real amp and its what i judge everything about a speaker with grggt ]
Old 16th June 2002
  #22
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🎧 15 years
mainly for me it's still NS-10's..... i love em cos the adage is true if it rocks on them, it rock everywhere on every system.

PMC TB2 passives to keep it real and give me an accurate idea of everything sub 100hz whicht he NS-10 shelve.. they have so much depth and clarity and actually translate really well for an audiophile job.

And if i'm tracking @ my favourite home studio.. it the big Tannoy Goldstars cranked to 11 for vibe.. Its all tits and ass with those babies.. no midrange (well it ****ing scooped out lets just say that!) powered by Crown .. its s bitching and vibey rock/tracking PA set in the wall!!

we usualy have KRK-v8's but i freakin hate them with a passion... i really cant see why everyone gets such a big hardon for them.. but that said heaps hate NS-10 and i love them.....so work it out!?????

PEACE
Wiggy
Old 16th June 2002
  #23
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🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally posted by Wiggy Neve Slut
we usualy have KRK-v8's but i freakin hate them with a passion... i really cant see why everyone gets such a big hardon for them.. but that said heaps hate NS-10 and i love them.....so work it out!?????
The fact is... monitors are a highly subjective choice -- I love the V8 and find them very easy to work with... in the past I've tried to work with NS-10s and find I can't... period!

It's really all about what an individual's taste dictates..... once you find the hammer that fits your hand, you use it!

Bruce
Old 17th June 2002
  #24
One with big hooves
 
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🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally posted by alphajerk
thats only the TIP of the iceberg with that prick . apparently his logic far outweighs reality on many fronts. i got an email from someone about him on another board, seriously dillusional.

excerpt from the email:
Some of the things he said on the AW list were just priceless. He said he could hear the difference between soldered connections and those made with just plastic connectors and that the plastic ones sounded better. He says you absolutely must have gold connectors on your speakers and outboard gear or else your sound is ****ed whether you realize it or not. He bought a Waves card for his Yamaha but sent it back, saying that even when the unit is being bypassed that it "veils" the sound. No one else noticed this, but he says they are all wrong.
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I used to work at a music store and we had this guy who we called Rain Man. Everyone's seen the movie right? Man, this nut was a "bass player" who came into the store and would complain about everything. At one point we got him a Wal bass and he stripped the finish off because it's ruining the sound, those idiots don't know how to apply a finish. Then he redid all the electronics... One time he even called up and used the entire 30 minutes of tape on the answering machine. He'd call and we'd hang the phone from something and once in a while someone would walk by and say "so why does a GHS .100 have a resonant frequency of 47hz?"
Old 18th June 2002
  #25
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Genelec 1030's with a Blue Sky sub (couldn't afford the Genelec sub. Had to tweak the crossover on the sub, but Blue Sky sent me schematics, told me where to locate the components on the board, and gave me suggestions and a formula for calculating the crossover frequency and curve - talk about service!
Old 18th June 2002
  #26
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I love my M+K's.
Old 18th June 2002
  #27
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🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally posted by Henchman
I love my M+K's.
Is that the ones that guys are using for surround? I had a set of those over for a few days - they were really fun, but they were so startlingly different from the other speakers in the room I didn't really trust them enough for a mix. And I loved the bass management capablities.
Old 19th June 2002
  #28
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🎧 15 years
That's the ones

I've used lots of different monitos. These are my alltime favourites
Old 19th June 2002
  #29
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🎧 15 years
Manley ML-10A Tannoy with Master Lab crossover w/ Bryston
Old 23rd June 2002
  #30
Gear Head
 
🎧 15 years
Mastering Lab 10's (Crossovers/Manley Cabinets) and the Mastering Lab modified PS2200 amp.
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