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Old 26th January 2022
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Coles 4104 for music recording
My interest was piqued after watching Ted Lasso. I would LOVE to try this on drums. Has anyone tried one in the studio on an instrument? Maybe I’ll rent one from Big Bird here in Nashville and report back.
If you have experience using one in a studio in a musical application, please spill the beans.
Thank you.
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Old 26th January 2022
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My interest was piqued after watching Ted Lasso. I would LOVE to try this on drums..

Never tried it, but the mic's frequency response is listed as 60Hz to 12kHz. Might be 'groovy' for some specific song, but ...
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Never tried it, but the mic's frequency response is listed as 60Hz to 12kHz. Might be 'groovy' for some specific song, but ...
Thanks for responding.
The SM57 frequency response is 40-15k. Not a huge difference yet it’s the super star snare transducer.
I’m so curious.
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Old 27th January 2022 | Show parent
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Thanks for responding.
The SM57 frequency response is 40-15k. Not a huge difference yet it’s the super star snare transducer.
Yeah, I could imagine it might be interesting on snare. Maybe even good.

When you said "drums", my thoughts went to overheads, and rolling off at 12k, I would be a bit worried. Not that those frequencies are still in my battered ears!

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I’m so curious.


I think you should give in to your curiosity. And also post some clips!
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Yeah, I could imagine it might be interesting on snare. Maybe even good.

When you said "drums", my thoughts went to overheads, and rolling off at 12k, I would be a bit worried. Not that those frequencies are still in my battered ears!




I think you should give in to your curiosity. And also post some clips!
I think you’re right. Hopefully Blackbird has one to rent. I start a rock record next week. Hopefully I can procure one and report back with clips.
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I think you’re right. Hopefully Blackbird has one to rent. I start a rock record next week. Hopefully I can procure one and report back with clips.
They don’t. I called. Not even Blackbird has a Coles 4104.
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They don’t. I called. Not even Blackbird has a Coles 4104.
Maybe there's a rental house that caters to film or radio people rather than recording studio types?
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Old 29th January 2022
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Thanks for responding.
The SM57 frequency response is 40-15k. Not a huge difference yet it’s the super star snare transducer.
I’m so curious.
So, you're hoping it sounds as bad as a 57?
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They don’t. I called. Not even Blackbird has a Coles 4104.
I think that's because it is not often considered a "studio" mic. There are a ton of "Broadcast" rental places in England that have them, no surprise there, but these two appear to be in California:

Bexel

Hollywood Sound
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Old 29th January 2022
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I had it for some time, it's pretty lofi, very low output, you have to basically touch it with your nose to have any low end on the voice, never liked it on anything so I let it go
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I had it for some time, it's pretty lofi, very low output, you have to basically touch it with your nose to have any low end on the voice, never liked it on anything so I let it go
I guess that's what that little guard thing is for - for resting on your nose to ensure the proper distance
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So, you're hoping it sounds as bad as a 57?
• Death
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• Tony dunking on the SM57
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Old 29th January 2022
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I always wondered how one would sound in a live or rehearsal situation as it was designed to cut out extraneous sounds and might be good to get rid of feedback.
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Old 29th January 2022
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It will sound like "30 love" at Wimbledon.

The thing is designed for very close up use so wouldn't expect it too fun at too much distance.
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Old 30th January 2022
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• Death
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• Tony dunking on the SM57
My GF and I are both laughing at this. It made my day, Joe. Thank you.
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Old 1st February 2022
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I've tried it on distorted bass.
It was cool.
Probably not a mic that would get used all the time, but fun when you do.
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