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Old 10th March 2022
  #91
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As of today, the OP has ONE post on GS, the one that started this thread.
I usually don’t think much of such threads, because we are duped into giving advice to someone who is not listening and apparently did not care a bit about the subject in the first place.
But there has been a lot of good information here about every aspect of an historic icon microphone. And we’ve heard from some people who are reaching icon status themselves.
Humans can be so unpredictable!
Old 16th March 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Bushman ➡️
As of today, the OP has ONE post on GS, the one that started this thread.
I usually don’t think much of such threads, because we are duped into giving advice to someone who is not listening and apparently did not care a bit about the subject in the first place.
But there has been a lot of good information here about every aspect of an historic icon microphone. And we’ve heard from some people who are reaching icon status themselves.
Humans can be so unpredictable!
Well, you have to start somewhere...
And yes, this for once was a good read!
Old 6th September 2022 | Show parent
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I've chosen different route.
Ordered U47w from Gunther Wagner as one of main working tools I needed years ago and continuously hunted in Germany and USA for proper vintage U47 since then.
As I'm not a collector I didn't care for anything except sonics.
Simple truth, couldn't find 'subjectively better sounding' vintage U47 than Gunther's recreation and stopped the torture. The difference between some quite good original U47s is way bigger than between several best U47 and U47w I had a chance to test.
Finally, it is not an absolute must, except for total gearheads.
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Wagner U47W
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Old 6th September 2022
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I had a client with Wagner #69 . It was awesome and every bit as good as our 1956 M7 U47 but new and with an ‘inky black’ silence and quietness about it.

Totally get one posters cure that the hunt was over.. I’d be there too if I bought one as good as #69

Wiggy
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I too love my Wagner U47w with an M7 capsule.

Ghost
Old 7th September 2022 | Show parent
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Is the used Wagner really worth £16k on Reverb? Surely it can’t be that different from a Flea, Nordic or a Wunder.
Old 7th September 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Paul_G ➡️
Is the used Wagner really worth £16k on Reverb? Surely it can’t be that different from a Flea, Nordic or a Wunder.
Seems steep to me, but it does sound like a U47.
I have never used a Flea, Nordic or Wunder, so they may be just as good.

Ghost
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You always run into a wall when it comes to the compression from the vf14tube. Most Wagner has EF12 tubes and the lowlows are mostly missing.

whisper softly is as loud in volume as when you scream
Old 7th September 2022
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I think at some point we’re going to have to readjust our bias(pun intended 🤣) towards anything Vf14 related.

If we’re not here now, we soon will be in-terms of just no NOS or used ones around for sale or use.

What’s going to be the new benchmark for what a 47 will sound like?

Wiggy
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Originally Posted by QueenSisi ➡️
Most Wagner has EF12 tubes and the lowlows are mostly missing.
Hmm, I don't have a problem with the lows on mine.
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What’s going to be the new benchmark for what a 47 will sound like?
nuvistor + bv11
Old 7th September 2022
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I’ve used nuvistor’s a ton… no problems at all!
Old 7th September 2022
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The thing about the nuvistor is that the bv8 turns ratio isn’t too favorable so you lose some low end. With a BV11 type ratio you regain it. That’s a mod Bock came up with back in his studio tech days iirc.

I’m thinking lately about setting up a kit mic like that.
Old 8th September 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Wiggy Neve Slut ➡️
What’s going to be the new benchmark for what a 47 will sound like?
Wiggy
A Warm 47?
Chris
Old 8th September 2022 | Show parent
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I will try to save a lot of people time and post all the proper responses.

1. All you really need is vocal lessons
2. If you don't know where to buy one you obviously can't understand or appreciate a vintage U47
3. It sounds like you couldn't tell the difference between a vintage U47 and an sm57
4. Just buy a Fearn mic pre.
5. Just buy a sheffield mic pre.
6. If you record your guitar parts with a strat instead of a les paul it will free up the frequency ranges that are being masked by your current mic and you really only need to buy another Distressor.
7. Upgrade your Pro Tools
8. The Warm Audio mic is exactly the same.
9. Don't even consider Warm Audio
10. Flea makes a perfect copy of a vintage 47
11. I've heard the Flea and it sounds nothing like my buddy's U47.

Hope this helps.
All was said here ^^^^

But where's the fun in that?

Wait!
He forgot one thing.
Just get a SM7. And the Cloudlifter.
Chris
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  #107
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Telefunken u47 from French.
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Old 8th September 2022 | Show parent
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Telefunken u47 from French.
good luck on getting scammed... :D You forgot an irony smile on your post ;D

btw. i see one original for 34k dollars and one for 20k dollars going on ebay from most likely serious sellers. Prices gone over the roof lately?
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Originally Posted by Paul_G ➡️
Is the used Wagner really worth £16k on Reverb? Surely it can’t be that different from a Flea, Nordic or a Wunder.
I've compared my Wagner U47w to the Flea 47 Next: www.pilgrimstudio.ch/comparisons.php

The Flea sounds a little more polished and more modern (less "fireplace in a log cabin" feel) to me.
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good luck on getting scammed... :D You forgot an irony smile on your post ;D

btw. i see one original for 34k dollars and one for 20k dollars going on ebay from most likely serious sellers. Prices gone over the roof lately?
This is a clone from USA .. indeed. Sorry but I thought everyone know this.
Old 10th September 2022 | Show parent
  #111
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🎧 10 years
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Originally Posted by JohnDrake ➡️
You'll break your heart trying to find a vintage U47 in half-decent condition that costs less than your car. Before doing that consider auditioning one of these wonderful U47 re-creations:

Heiserman H47tube
https://heisermanaudio.com/products/h47tube

Pearlman Tm-47
https://pearlmanmicrophones.com/product/tm-47

Flea 47
www.flea-microphones.com/mics_vintage.html
Heisserman is WESOME NOTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT IT ALL IS PERFECT WITH THAT MIC
Old 10th September 2022 | Show parent
  #112
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Originally Posted by Bushman ➡️
Helmuth, Helmuth, Helmuth...
None of the posts so far have bashed the real U47. Noting that something is extraordinarily expensive is not bashing it.
Also, I don’t think anyone posting so far has mentioned even using a real U47. I didn’t. In my time in LA studios I saw many U47 fet, but in LA studios in that period tube mics and tube outboard were not generally as prized as they were before and since. Never saw a U47, U67 or 251.

“Posers”? WTF does that mean in this thread except as a generic insult.
Right back at you, drooler.
Yep he called us POOR PEOPLE
kind of condescending tone on it.....
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Originally Posted by toledo3 ➡️
The thing about the nuvistor is that the bv8 turns ratio isn’t too favorable so you lose some low end. With a BV11 type ratio you regain it. That’s a mod Bock came up with back in his studio tech days iirc.

I’m thinking lately about setting up a kit mic like that.
I’d like to hear that cos all the Nuvistor’s I’ve heard sounded dreadful.
Old 10th September 2022 | Show parent
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Yep he called us POOR PEOPLE
kind of condescending tone on it.....
Why is this a “reply” glued on to a post of mine from January 2021?
I would only expect a reply two years later when I am communicating with beings who are outside our solar system.
(And I am not admitting to having such communications.)
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Originally Posted by Paul_G ➡️
I’d like to hear that cos all the Nuvistor’s I’ve heard sounded dreadful.
BV8 just has too low of a turns ratio for the output impedance of the circuit, when the nuvistor substitute is running in it.

It brings to mind some of the chatter about EF86 going on. The bass issue people experience with things like vintage EF86 vs the some of newer things that aren’t *really* EF86, just russian “equivalent” labelled as EF86 for our market, is somewhat related. Just a fair bit milder in effect. They have different plate characteristics from a real EF86, and have a hard time with the demands of the U67 circuit, especially in how the tube is loaded by the output transformer and preamp.
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Originally Posted by Bushman ➡️
Why is this a “reply” glued on to a post of mine from January 2021?
I would only expect a reply two years later when I am communicating with beings who are outside our solar system.
(And I am not admitting to having such communications.)
It took a whole year to get my reply from...
Bruno Mars.
Chris
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