Another stupid mistake on my part. I turned off one of the subs but forgot I had a dual sub system (because it’s late at night and I suppose my mental faculties were compromised). Suffice it to say, the DAC and speaker levels were such that the DAC was feeding too high of an input level to the sub for the SPL that the HEDDs were pushing out. The bass is actually quite tight. I’m just a moron.

Yeah. I was surprised. Mine are accurate as far as I can tell.

Not a moron. Well I don’t know. Maybe. That’s kind kind of mistake I could make. Easily. Two motions or just tired. Lol.

Not a moron at all. In fact, a star in my book for coming back and letting us know the issue and solution with both grace and humility 👍

I tried the HEDD Type 20s in both near-field on my desk and mid-field as front L&Rs in my surround setup. I’m coming at this from the perspective of an audiophile and not someone who works with audio in any capacity.

As far as my upgrade path thus far, I’ve owned the following for a meaningful bit of time; Creative T20-> Presonus Ceres 3.5 BT->Adam ARTist 5-> Adam A7X-> EVE SC208 (current pair). I also own Genelec 8020s and Genelec 8250As (which I’m looking to sell).

I’ve also owned or auditioned speakers like Elac Debut 2.0, Presonus Sceptre s6, Adam T7V, Genelec 8010s, Elac FS 407, etc.

Over the past decade I’ve learned quite a bit about audio, speakers, room correction, my preferred tonality, etc. The most important thing I’ve come to really appreciate in this hobby through this process is the law of diminishing gains. If I’m honest with myself, the substantial improvements in musical fidelity largely leveled off when I bought the ARTist 5 used years ago for ~$600 CAD/pair. The Eves provided more low-end grunt and speed but I would have been able to make due with a speaker of the ARTist 5’s quality.

The improvements when I jumped to higher end speakers like the Genelec 8250s and HEDD Type 20s became more and more difficult to notice. Across the frequency response, I found the Genelec 8250As to be marginally better than the Eve SC208 but less pleasant to listen to as I found them to be fatiguing in near-field and largely unremarkable relative to the SC208s in mid-field.

The HEDD Type 20s provided tighter bass, better mids, and more crisp top-end extension. But the Eves were designed to be warmer speakers with a smoother top end. Once I EQed the HEDDs to my liking, the differences to the Eves (a 2-way with an 8” woofer that is 1/3 the price) were too minor for me to care about.

I’m just not comfortable paying 3X the price for what I’d call a 10% (if I had to put a number to my qualitative sense of things) improvement. I suppose this would be more noteworthy for folks in purpose-built control rooms with a hell of a lot of treatment (who make a living in this space) or ultra-high-end audiophiles. But for me, it’s kind of solidified my suspicions about where I stand when it comes to this audiophile hobby. I just don’t care to spend more $ on increasingly minor improvements. The grass isn’t greener enough for me to care.

Has anyone compared the HEDD type 20 mk2 and 30 mk2? Curious to hear your thoughts

Mind you, I’ve heard the MK1 models.
The difference is not huge imho..
there’s a little bit more lowend (a tad more extension) and more SPL avalaible on the 30 as to be expected..
If the room is not big the 20 will do well.

I can imagine it is probably the same with the mk2, but I never heard them side by side.



Cheu

I have. The difference is: more SPL, more low end extension. Didn't like the sound of the HEDD monitors at all, though.

I've heard them both, I own a pair of the Type 20 MK1's. Love them by the way. Great build quality.

Apart from a few handy technical additions, although I was tempted, I really didn't see any point in upgrading to the MK2's. Was also nervous about support TBH since they dropped it, without a word, for their Lineariser plugin for the MK1's, refusing to answer any questions about it since. Been a few years now, pretty poor for a new brand that needs to build trust. I'll likely move onto another brand when the time comes.

The Type 30's both MK1 and MK2 as others have already said give you a little more in the low end but depending on the size of your room, the Type 20's are more than capable.

Hello there!
Are the Hedds on the same level(detail, image, balance, translation, distortion, openness, etc…), aside from price and/or reputation, as the ATCs and PMCs?
Thank you!

The Hedds offer an incredible value for their performance, that’s for sure.

They use their amt tweeter and that make them present things with a lot of detail..
anyway they present things differently..compared to atc or even pmc.

their mids are excellent, really good indeed.
These are serious sounding/performing monitors, and for their price, quite amazing.

I didn’t use them enough to say if they translate the same or better than atc/pmc’s.. but for sure they have a very capable midrange.. so IF you’re not on atc or pmc’s, they might indeed offer an improvement on the monitors you’re using now.

Maybe @ henry Robinett could chime in and speak about his own experience with them, and how they translate, since he used them for quite a while..

I do personally prefer a silk dome tweeter to the amt..
but you might have a different opinion..this is really a personal thing.

At this level is really a matter of room integration and taste.
I do believe the Hedds also offer the nice option to go sealed cabinet or ported.. that might play a role in some rooms.

We’ll see how the dsp’s and converters held up regarding their reliability through the years..
this is probably the only thing I’d be concerned about..

I’d suggest you to test the hedds out against atc and pmc and form your personal opinion..

Even atc’s and pmc’s are not similar in their presentation.. so it’s quite an apple/orange comparison.

The Hedds are probably the less expensive 3way “hi end” powered monitor I know of, which is worth investing..but that doesn’t mean that they are for you.
ATC, PMC, Geithain 3way, Strauss and I’d even put Neumann 3way (although they tend to be too “soft” for me) are offering some of the best monitors you can buy today.

Go and test some of these..



Cheu

Thank you very much, really appreciated! I think I would use the Type 20 Mk2 as a closed loudspeaker if I end up buying it.

Love my Type 20 MK1's. Sound so good and does not fatigue my ears for long listening sessions.
I debate whether it is worth the upgrade to the MK2's? and sell my MK1's.

I'm considering a 5.1 set up, so I'm considering another pair of Type 20 Mk IIs. I have to see if I have the room.