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Old 14th October 2002
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$6000.00 mic cabinet

please spend my money!!!!

quality solutions only!

needed, usual suspects- vocals, drums, acoustic electric guitars
ect...

condensors, large and small, dynamic, ribbons... anything goes!

dynamic money saving boutique pieces considered!

flames O.K.!

no response no matter how obtuse, unconsidered!


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Old 14th October 2002
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by the way my mic pres so far...

cranesong spider
joe meek twinQcs
hhb radius 40

considering...
viper
millinia media stt
api 7600
yuktyy yuktyy yuktyy yuktyy yuktyy yuktyy
Old 14th October 2002
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Opinions and milages will certainly vary but when starting from scratch you definately need some "standard" oneswhich should be able to cover most applications with good results. The foillowing list is keeping that in mind :

At least 2 AKG C414B-ULS

a bunch of SM57's and some SM58's are a must and add a beta 52 for Basdrum while at it (they are inexpensive and good)

you won't regret a couple of neumann KM180 series and then maybe a 147. (149 and 150 but those way realy heavy on that 6000$ budget)

I guess it is a question of getting a lot now and spend more later or getting a few good ones that will cover most applications.

If your not in a hurry .... keep your eyes open ... ebay and stuff like that sometimes have great deals on mics.
Old 14th October 2002
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ditto...

2 x 414 for overheads, occasional vocals, accosutic gtrs
bunch of 57/58's.... WHATEVER!!!! they are allways needed
2 x 421 Kik, vox, TOMS!!!!!, bass cab
2 x Oktava 012's check the matchs tho... accoustics, rooms, toms, electric gtrs
AKG D112
Ribbon of some desritption... oktavas are very nice for little $$
Find a Neuman CMV-563 form ebay.... poor mans U47 with the m7 capsule! for vocals etc they go for around no more than $1500 U.S

These will all match up great with ya spider!
API is THA bomb!!! as far as channel strips go.... u wont send it back guaranteed!

PEACE
Wiggy
Old 14th October 2002
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Not big on 414's myself.

A pair of M160's for overheads if going digital.
Or a pair of KM184's if not, or the 012's for budget.
A lawson L47 or Soundelux Mic U99. One good mic for around 1/3 of the money, better then upgrading the vocal mic again later.
Audio Technica AT25 is cool for kick.
57's of course, snare and guitars.
A couple of 421 if you can another swiss army mic.
Then maybe a pair of 414's if you need a pair of LD mics.

I would get good mics and utility mics to start with so you do not have to upgrade the upgrades.
Old 14th October 2002
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maybe I should add, I own....
2 rode nt1
2 oktava mk012
2 sm 58
1 studio projects c1
thanks for the input!
Old 14th October 2002
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I'm with Dave...not big on 414's. For me the following would suffice:

2 x Soundelux U195
4 x Sennheiser 421 II
2 x SM57
2 x Royer 121 or Coles 4038

That's right up to your budget and I personally think will yield the most flexible results for that amount of money. Anything else for me if I was just starting to build a mic locker would be a total waste of money. I wish that Soundelux and Royer's were around 10 years ago; and I wish someone at the time had the sense to lead me in the right direction (which at the time there really wasn't anyone who knew or cared enough to share real experience or knowledge). Why these mics in particular? 1) They are all excellent quality 2) They are all well rounded multi purpose utlity microphones 3) You will never want to sell them even if you eventually have a million dollar room with a six figure mic locker....they will always be useful. You may get MORE mics by buying cheaper crap, but the loss that you take by selling the cheap-o mics on ebay later could have bought you better mics today. I wouldn't go for the "big prize" mic until you get these fundamentals out of the way, then something like a Soundelux E47 or ELUX 251 would be in order if you want to take it up a few levels. YMMV.
Old 15th October 2002
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I also don't like 414's.
I do like and recommend M147's
I would add Sennheiser e609's to the "cheap but useful" list - I like them on Guitars that you want darker than a sm57 and on toms too.
I also like Earthworks QTC1 Omni's and the Royer/Spieden SF12 stereo ribbon.
Old 15th October 2002
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It doesn't hurt to have something with multiple patterns around and a used 414 can be a good choice for that. I'd go with;

414BULS or AT4050 x 1
TLM 103 x 2
SM57 x 4
421 x 3
KM184 x 2
Beta 52 or ATM25 x 1
Royer R121 x 2

That should be right around $6000.
Old 16th October 2002
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I'm with Nathan and Jay.

Or, add a bit more and blow it all on a U47 or C12. If you get a good one, I doubt you'll ever regret it. A keeper-for-life mic.

Or a U67 in the $3500 range, leaving you with some extra $$ to send it to Klaus @ German Masterworks or Stephan Paul if necessary for tweaking, or to buy some 57s and 421s and an ATM25 to round out your basics.
Old 16th October 2002
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wot he said

pointing at nathen

soundelux rule
forget rode nonsense
414 grudge
i hate d112 as well save your cash they suk



so just a elux 251 for me for the money please
heh
heh

and a 57/8 just in case you need 2 mikes ...fuuck

Old 13th December 2003
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So a mic cabinet is your mic collection?
Old 13th December 2003
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Ditto Nathan and Dave: 414EB's are pretty awful.

Maybe Chris meant the older, silver 414's. Now THOSE are excellent, if the capsules are in good shape.


You need at least one good tube mic, IMO. As Jon wrote, a rebuilt U67 or M269 can't be beat, as an all-arounder.

Quite a few really good mics in current production as well: Some stuff from Blue... the Brauner KH edition, the Manley gold reference.. Elux 251... all are fine.

Then just get some 57's for everything else.

Once you have more money, you can look at niceties such as 1/2" condensers (KM54 KM56 maybe KM84 or AKG 460, earthworks, DPA...) and killer vocal mics like a C12. But that's definitely for another day with your budget.
Old 13th December 2003
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I`d go with:

1 U99 Great vocal mic and single drum overhead or room
1 U195 ALso great on vox and good workhorse
2 - 3 Sennheiser MD421 Kick and tom mics
2 Shure SM 81 High hat and cymbal mics also possible overheads
1 Royer 121 Great guitar amp mic and other purposes too
2 - 3 SM57 Snare and guitar amps

I think thats under $6000 right ?

That will give you one outstanding tube vocal mic plus a couple other high end mics possible for different vocals.
The rest are good all purpose work horse mics.
Old 14th December 2003
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OK I am going to assume that a mic cabinet is the persons mic collection. Why is it called a mic cabinet?
Old 14th December 2003
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I listened to a Telefunken reissue U47 at AES and maybe it was the grados, but that thing sounded fantastic. It's over $5K I think though.
Old 15th December 2003
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spend a bunch on one do-all be-all and the rest on workhorses.


Soundelux U195 or U99 -do-all be-all
Sennheiser MD421...several
Beyer M160 ribbon (2)
Neumann KM184 or Audio Technica 4051(2)
Sm57
SM7
KSM44
ATM25 or Audix D6 for yer kik or both if ya wanna mic bass cabs too...

should be right at yer budget.
Old 15th December 2003
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I would get.........


U67 or M269 from reputable source. $3500
KM84 or similar. $800
Soundelux i-fet47. $1500
2-SM57's. $200

And there's your $6000

Then I would save up another $1000 and get a Royer R121 (or similar ribbon) and call it a day.

Sean
Old 26th December 2003
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2 Soundelux U195
2 Neumann KM184 or 2 Audio Technica AT4051
5 Sennheiser MD421
2 Groove Tubes GT33 (allmost free)
Old 26th December 2003
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4 SM57's $300
3 421's $600
1 Royer 121 $1100
1 Shure Beta 52 or AKG D112 $200
2 Josephson C42 $950
2 AKG 414 TLII $1500 used
Soundelux U195 $1150

That'll bring you in $200 under budget, maybe break-even with tax and shipping, and you'll be able to handle just abount anything I can think of. Later you can start adding the big guns - U47, U67, 251, Bottle, etc., etc.


Rob
Old 26th December 2003
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2 414s $1500
2 JosephonMP C42 $950
2 57s $150
3 421 $900
1 beta52 $200
1 U99 $2300

I would have a R121 on the short list...but this is versatility to cover most situations IMO getting started.
Old 26th December 2003
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nice list rob...

i think there is a general consensus of some common mics for the money.
Old 27th December 2003
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What about:

Blue baby bottle +/- 800$
Gefell tube Bottle +/- 1000$
two md 421's +/- 300$ (second hand)
three sm57's +/- 300$
AKG d12 +/- 200$ (second hand)
two Gefell mv692's small diagrams +/- 500$ (second hand)
Neumann u67 3000,-

totall: 6100 $

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