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Old 12th November 2009
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ssl bus compressor best builders

Hi can anyone give me feedback on somebody that can make me an ssl bus comp with great parts and the best quality, somebody with real experience.thanks
Old 12th November 2009
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Hi can anyone give me feedback on somebody that can make me an ssl bus comp with great parts and the best quality, somebody with real experience.thanks
Alan Smart
Old 12th November 2009 | Show parent
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Try Solid State Logic.

Their one is quite authentic and well made.

Bus comp in a Mynx is good value.

But then I would say that wouldn't I

Sam
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Old 17th November 2009
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TRY The Deskdoctor



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The DeskDoctor
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Welcome to The Desk Doctor.com - Solutions in Pro-Audio

We supply Tech services, for every professional SSL mixing console.

We carry the most SSL spares and experience (3 erstwhile SSL company veterans!) outside of Oxford.
Old 18th November 2009 | Show parent
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DIY it!!!!
Old 18th November 2009 | Show parent
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diy is not an option for me..
Old 18th November 2009
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Hi can anyone give me feedback on somebody that can make me an ssl bus comp with great parts and the best quality, somebody with real experience.thanks

SSL period.
Old 18th November 2009
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If DIY isnt an option for you, just troll the Classifieds here and the black market at the lab. GSSLs turn up all the time there.
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If DIY isnt an option for you, just troll the Classifieds here and the black market at the lab. GSSLs turn up all the time there.
I am quite happy with my smart C1
Old 18th November 2009 | Show parent
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Buy a Chameleon 7720 is good.
Old 19th November 2009 | Show parent
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Buy a Chameleon 7720 is good.

Its good enough to do the job but no SSL xlogic. 99% of the time you always get what you pay for. extra inches cost big $$ unfortunately.

Owned both.
Old 25th November 2009 | Show parent
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That's because the 7720 is a slightly different circuit than the ssl. It uses a summed sidechain where the ssl has a seperate sidechain for each channel.

The SSL xlogic is not worth $3000 IMO. Parts alone cost $350-$400 maybe. Less if you don't use a Sifam meter.
Old 25th November 2009 | Show parent
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its the same other than the sidechain?

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That's because the 7720 is a slightly different circuit than the ssl. It uses a summed sidechain where the ssl has a seperate sidechain for each channel.

The SSL xlogic is not worth $3000 IMO. Parts alone cost $350-$400 maybe. Less if you don't use a Sifam meter.
Old 26th November 2009 | Show parent
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No, actually the 7720 is more of a GSSL copy. It uses a TL074 and TL072 in the sidechain (like the gssl), where the SSL used three TL072's. The 7720 also uses 5532's on the output (again like the gssl), where the real SSL only used 5534's. Also the DBX vca emulation circuit in the gssl is basically transplanted right into the 7720.

The only really good thing about the 7720 is that the power supply (rectification, filtering, and regulation) is on a seperate pcb which can lower the noise floor if you don't employ proper decoupling.
But expat audio sells these now for gssl's.

Other than that the 7720 is essentially just a gssl clone with a supersidechain board incorporated into the main pcb.

It's a little amusing that it's a clone of a clone!
Old 27th November 2009 | Show parent
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The Chameleon also has some versatile metering. Also a 1.5:1 ratio.

I built two GSSLs though.
Old 28th November 2009 | Show parent
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Solid State Logic...
Old 29th November 2009 | Show parent
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I just tried a JLM moded Chameleon Labs buss comp this week and it sucked ass against my C2.
I do not see what all the fuss is about. I keep reading that it is a good budget comp. What gives. I thought that it was next to useless. It's only saving grace was the adjustable side chain EQ. dfegad
Old 30th November 2009 | Show parent
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What's the JLM mod for it? I haven't heard about this...

The reason you probably don't like it is because it sums the L/R together into a single sidechain and creates control voltages for the audio path VCA's based on the summed L/R signal, which can cause unwanted compression artifacts on a mix. Your C2 likely has completely seperate audio paths like the real SSL buss comp.
Old 30th November 2009 | Show parent
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The reason I did not like it was that it sounded thin and harsh. In lay terms, ****.


I did have a look inside it to see if I could see what mods wee done and the only thing that looked a little after market was the 2 x THAT Corp. VCA chips. Are they standard or an addition.
Old 1st December 2009 | Show parent
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I think the That Corp VCA's are standard on it.
Old 3rd December 2009 | Show parent
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I have a 7720 that I modified with LM1358 and LM1357 in place of 5534 and 5532, so bypassing elettrolitycs. It sounds richer and cleaner than stock version. It's not a miracle box but it will do its duty.
Old 5th December 2009 | Show parent
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You mean LT1357 and LT1358, right?
Old 6th December 2009 | Show parent
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of course LT...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mylithra ➑️
GSSLs turn up all the time there.
The stock circuit is ok, but, yes, summed sidechain signal creates problems with bass heavy material quickly.

The really usable ones have some add-ons which solve the above problem and more:
-The Turbo board
-The CRC PS filter
-SuperSidechain
-Crush'n'Blend
-Selectable metering boards

Some of the G-SSL builds are pretty serious that hold there own...heh
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