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Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Empire Prod ➑️
Having one performance doesn't help with vocal shootouts all that much when it comes to mics. All the mics will have different positions relative to the singer and that is what we will most likely hear. The mics can't all occupy the same space and time. Give me a break. The test is fine for these purposes.
Exactly!!
The pic Tony posted...no way you could get a perfect position for proximity on all those 8 mics.heh
Astro
Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by nukmusic ➑️
cool... but just a few questions..

Since you've went through all the trouble I'm sure you will post pics of the shootout? what other engineers were there?

I went to your website and there wasn't much info on your mics.
any detailed data, specs, and pics?
What are the prices and what dealers carry them?

thanks
I will post a few more pics of the shootout soon.

Sorry about the website, i have been getting it worked on, the progress is a little slow.

I don't have any dealers, pm me for details.

On the day of the shootout, i was not allowed to touch anything. the 2 engineers present took care of it all.

Cheers
Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by 3rdeyeKnight ➑️
results please.

I 'll post the results tomorrow, but first; what are your choices?

cheers
Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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Ben/Astro

Do either of you have any time to answer some questions about the jade james or arabella?
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Ben/Astro

Do either of you have any time to answer some questions about the jade james or arabella?

Give me a call!

0419 481 569

cheers
Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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i'll call later today when work isnt so busy. cheers ben.
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Ben/Astro

Do either of you have any time to answer some questions about the jade james or arabella?
If you want a users opinion as well...just post on the Arabella thread and I will answer the best I can.
As far as taste goes...its obviously personal...but personally I really like the Arabella!
Cheers
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Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by chrisso ➑️
So how would you record a single performance into 3 mics simultaneously let alone 7 while having the singer sing an optimal distance from the mics capsule?
It just seems like an argument to can all comparison tests in future.
They obviously aren't scientific, or even that conclusive. They are a bit of fun and somewhat a teaser to each piece of equipment's capabilities.
Too many variables - the skill of the singer, the skill of the engineer.
Examples of the same mic (especially vintage) can sound different. Differences may occur if the same mic-pre isn't used. Some mics sound better with a certain mic-pre instead of another.
There are so many variables I think you have to accept it's more of an interesting exercise than something clinically conclusive.
Exactly! I agree with Chris 100% here, even the cable can make a difference, so I think using the same pre, cable etc is a better approach, Also with 7 mics sitting next to each other there are bound to be reflections coming off the mic bodies also if they are too close together.

Whenever I'm recording vocals and the vocalist just stands there and sings it gives me the ****s, I tell them to play up to the mic and get animated. Make it a performance not just a recording.
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Results????
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Results????
C'mon mate a little paience.
heh
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Results????

hi james,

not results per say,

i'll just be posting the mic names so people can then know which mic they prefered.

cheers
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Ben,

Great shootout man.

James
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by mics ➑️
Here are the samples of the first artist.
#1 captures something in this singer that none of the others do.

-R
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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here are the samples of the 2nd artist.
I liked 1 best, then 6. Didn't care for 2. 3 and 4 sounded steely and false.

-R
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Here are samples of the 3rd artist (me)
Harder to say with these performances (sorry!).

I'm liking 1 and 6 I guess.

Are the mics in the same order for each test or is that my imagination?

-R
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by 3rdeyeKnight ➑️
results please.
No, let's hold off on the results until at least the end of the week. I'd rather debate testing methodology for a few more pages.
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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No, let's hold off on the results until at least the end of the week. I'd rather debate testing methodology for a few more pages.
heh i love it!!!
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Harder to say with these performances (sorry!).

I'm liking 1 and 6 I guess.

Are the mics in the same order for each test or is that my imagination?

-R
Yes the mics are in the same order for each artist.

Cheers
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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#3 and #5 were my faves by far
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I have to say that I find it gratifying both when someone agrees with my choices, which has been rare so far, and when many don't which just confirms the "different strokes" thang. I'll be even more interested though to know which are which regardless of what others think or like. Evidently there's a place for all of us on this bluegreen ball.
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I have to say that I find it gratifying both when someone agrees with my choices, which has been rare so far, and when many don't which just confirms the "different strokes" thang. I'll be even more interested though to know which are which regardless of what others think or like. Evidently there's a place for all of us on this bluegreen ball.
1 thing gearslutz has taught me is "not to believe anything till I hear it with my own ears".
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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i like the sounds. after listenin on bigger speakers, i like #2 #3 is cool too.
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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"You bet your Mic"
My choices at moment.

1. #2
2. #3
3. #3
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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#6 was nice, but the rest weren't "bad". Once you start adding in all the music the choices may change.
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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what the previous poster said, but 1 stood out to me as "nice" on the first two samplings, I liked 5 on the last set.

M.
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Oh man...the intensity of it!

I liked very much both 1 & 2, especially on male vocals.

3 didn't make much of an impression, probably because it sits next to fuller sounding mics, might be great on its' own.

4 was a balanced and lush sound, but that rumble...subway?

5 didn't stick, on this source, anyway

6 and 7 however were competing for thick and gooey, and had plenty of funk...which I like. 7 must have been inspiring the singers, for "some reason"...and with such short clips, I'd have to peg it to being able to bring magic to the session. Or were there cue cards on site ?

2 & 7 are my faves
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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It's weird, I was walking around thinking about gear today...as I often do...and there is just so much of it to think about...and for some reason Beezneez came up, and I thought to check on his mics...I was a little surprised to find this shootout, but the timing is simply perfect.

Thanks very much.

Curiosity is near total now.
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by starseed ➑️

Curiosity is near total now.
Curiosity killed the cat
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Curiosity killed the cat
Curiousity did George dirty too..


Good thing cats have 9 lives.
Old 28th January 2009 | Show parent
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Time for some results

Hi Folks, you have all been very patient so; here they are...

1 = BeesNeez James
2 = Neumann M49b
3 = BeesNeez Jade
4 = Wagner U47w
5 = Arabella Neumann K47
6 = Neumann U47
7 = BeesNeez Arabella

Cheers
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