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Mic Pre Shootout: AMS 1073spx - BAE 1073mpf - Chandler TG2 - Prism Orpheus
Old 23rd June 2019
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Mic Pre Shootout: AMS 1073spx - BAE 1073mpf - Chandler TG2 - Prism Orpheus

In the spirit of giving back to the community, here's a little shootout I did recently...

The contenders:

- AMS 1073spx
- BAE 1073mpf
- Chandler TG2
- Prism Orpheus

Everything was split 4 ways through a passive split with the same cable lengths to ensure the same take. Everything mono, dry, no eq.

Drums are loops reamped through the pre's.
Bass is a Reddi through the pre's with or without a distortion pedal.
Guitars a Lazy J 20 with an Extinct Audio BM9 ribbon
Acoustics and Vocals with a Pearlman TM1

I did my best to level match the pre's. The volume may differ from one set to the other though. Feel free to fine tune in your DAW! "A" is always the same preamp etc.

Results in a couple of days?

Enjoy!

EDIT: The results.txt file is now included at the bottom of the samples
Attached Files

Drums1_A.wav (3.07 MB, 5281 views)

Drums1_B.wav (3.07 MB, 5161 views)

Drums1_C.wav (3.07 MB, 4898 views)

Drums1_D.wav (3.07 MB, 4685 views)

Drums2_A.wav (3.73 MB, 4588 views)

Drums2_B.wav (3.73 MB, 4433 views)

Drums2_C.wav (3.73 MB, 4232 views)

Drums2_D.wav (3.73 MB, 4056 views)

Bass1_A.wav (3.70 MB, 4211 views)

Bass1_B.wav (3.70 MB, 4109 views)

Bass1_C.wav (3.70 MB, 3973 views)

Bass1_D.wav (3.70 MB, 3888 views)

Bass2_A.wav (6.21 MB, 3953 views)

Bass2_B.wav (6.21 MB, 3848 views)

Bass2_C.wav (6.21 MB, 3797 views)

Bass2_D.wav (6.21 MB, 3686 views)

Bass3_A.wav (3.11 MB, 3746 views)

Bass3_B.wav (3.11 MB, 3630 views)

Bass3_C.wav (3.11 MB, 3643 views)

Bass3_D.wav (3.11 MB, 3570 views)

Guitar1_A.wav (2.61 MB, 3941 views)

Guitar1_B.wav (2.61 MB, 3789 views)

Guitar1_C.wav (2.61 MB, 3669 views)

Guitar1_D.wav (2.61 MB, 3616 views)

Guitar2_A.wav (4.29 MB, 3623 views)

Guitar2_B.wav (4.29 MB, 3553 views)

Guitar2_C.wav (4.29 MB, 3547 views)

Guitar2_D.wav (4.29 MB, 3501 views)

Guitar3_A.wav (4.29 MB, 3628 views)

Guitar3_B.wav (4.29 MB, 3541 views)

Guitar3_C.wav (4.29 MB, 3507 views)

Guitar3_D.wav (4.29 MB, 3471 views)

Acoustic1_A.wav (4.29 MB, 4038 views)

Acoustic1_B.wav (4.29 MB, 3883 views)

Acoustic1_C.wav (4.29 MB, 3778 views)

Acoustic1_D.wav (4.29 MB, 3662 views)

Vocal1_A.wav (6.13 MB, 5313 views)

Vocal1_B.wav (6.13 MB, 4830 views)

Vocal1_C.wav (6.13 MB, 4469 views)

Vocal1_D.wav (6.13 MB, 4193 views)

File Type: txt Results.txt (38 Bytes, 521 views)

Last edited by Reptil; 24th November 2020 at 11:54 AM.. Reason: =
Old 23rd June 2019
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The A samples are always the same preamp? Or you shuffle the letters for each instrument?
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The A samples are always the same preamp? Or you shuffle the letters for each instrument?
A is always the same preamp etc.
Old 23rd June 2019
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I'm not in the studio, so listened through my DT770. I think A and D have similar colour, I would say they are the Neves. C is clearly the cleaner to me, so maybe the Prism. And B is a bit different, so the TG2.

Nice recording, btw.

Can you PM me the answers? Thanks.
Old 24th June 2019
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Whew, not even going to guess on this one and all versions sound killer. I think b is smoothest in vocals. I bounce between b and c on bass, and b is probably my favorite on acoustic. What’s the acoustic chain btw? I could see all being great useable

Thanks for sharing!
Old 24th June 2019
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Thank for this,

I would use B on vocals (doesn't have an unpleasant "background noise" like A), and prefer C on acoustic.

Can you PM the answers please?.

Daniel.
Old 24th June 2019 | Show parent
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Thank for this,

I would use B on vocals (doesn't have an unpleasant "background noise" like A), and prefer C on acoustic.

Can you PM the answers please?.

Daniel.
I'd love to see those answers too btw! I'm ready buy!
Old 24th June 2019
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Pm’d you the results...
Old 24th June 2019 | Show parent
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Pm’d you the results...
Thank you!
Old 29th June 2019 | Show parent
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Whew, not even going to guess on this one and all versions sound killer. I think b is smoothest in vocals. I bounce between b and c on bass, and b is probably my favorite on acoustic. What’s the acoustic chain btw? I could see all being great useable

Thanks for sharing!
J45 mic'd with a pearlman tm1 into the pre's into the prism.
Old 29th June 2019
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Results have been attached!
Old 26th April 2020 | Show parent
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A is always the same preamp etc.
which convertors did you use?
Old 26th April 2020 | Show parent
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which convertors did you use?
Prism Orpheus
Old 26th April 2020 | Show parent
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Prism Orpheus
thanks
Old 6th May 2020
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Can you PM the answers?

Thanks.
Old 7th June 2020
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Please PM answers
Old 20th June 2020
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Thanks Nicolas!

Listened to all "1" samples and preferred "D" on everything. Was a bit disappointed to find it was the Prism!
Old 20th June 2020
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@ heljehovgode : The answers are in the Resuts.txt attachment of the first post!
Old 5th July 2020
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Thanks Nicolas!

Listened to all "1" samples and preferred "D" on everything. Was a bit disappointed to find it was the Prism!
The prism is super clean and the ADDA is stellar do not such a bad thing to prefer them considering the quality of it as a conversion unit as well as it’s super value as an 8 channel. I appreciate my unit best when making round trips.

He did a great job in matching the clean low level input to match the Prisms pre’s. I guess the whole point is that you could drive the other 3 to sound as saturated as you like to taste.
Old 4th August 2020
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Great shootout! Thanks for doing this

Super interesting - I listened to the vox most closely and thought the BAE (B) sounded best for your voice by a good bit! I used both BAE and AMS (DPA) and preferred (and bought) the latter on my voice (with a U87ai). Might need to snag a used BAE for another colour!

Cheers!
Old 24th November 2020 | Show parent
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Great shootout! Thanks for doing this

Super interesting - I listened to the vox most closely and thought the BAE (B) sounded best for your voice by a good bit! I used both BAE and AMS (DPA) and preferred (and bought) the latter on my voice (with a U87ai). Might need to snag a used BAE for another colour!

Cheers!
Thanks guys. Well this shootout for me was deciding which to add to my SPX between the BAE and the TG2. In the end I chose the TG2 for guitars. The BAE although very nice on vocals, just has a bit of wooliness down low which added up. So the SPX is still on vox here

Last edited by nicolasmasset; 24th November 2020 at 04:09 AM..
Old 24th November 2020 | Show parent
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Thanks guys. Well this shootout for me was deciding which to add so my SPX between the BAE and the TG2. In the end I chose the TG2 for guitars. The BAE although very nice on vocals, just has a bit of wooliness down low which added up. So the SPX is still on vox here
Thanks for the update! I am considering selling my 1073DPA for a DPX
Old 24th November 2020 | Show parent
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Thanks for the update! I am considering selling my 1073DPA for a DPX
For use as a tracking Eq or mixing? If I had the money for the dpx to start with I probably wouldn’t have got the chandler. But glad I did though! Super convenient to sum 2 guitar mics to one track all up front!
Old 24th November 2020 | Show parent
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It would be nice for both tracking and mixing! I also really like built in HPFs on preamps - to be honest, if the DPA had a HPF I probably wouldn't think about the DPX as much I have some outboard pultecs by Audioscape which have the bottom and top range covered but would be nice to have something for midrange... The chandler is tempting as well! Was looking at getting one of those but need to slow down a little bit
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It would be nice for both tracking and mixing! I also really like built in HPFs on preamps - to be honest, if the DPA had a HPF I probably wouldn't think about the DPX as much I have some outboard pultecs by Audioscape which have the bottom and top range covered but would be nice to have something for midrange... The chandler is tempting as well! Was looking at getting one of those but need to slow down a little bit
Are the pultecs ok? I’ve got the g comp from audio scape. Awesome sound but sound drop-outs when I wiggle the xlr’s :/
Old 24th November 2020 | Show parent
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Oh no! That's too bad - but I would contact them and let them know. They're super great to deal with and responsive. I absolutely love the Pultecs - to be fair I've never used a pair of Pulses but these things sound so sweet. I use them while tracking and currently on the mix bus. Hard to beat at that price
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