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Karl Rove up ****'s Creek...Just lost his paddle!
Old 25th July 2005 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Sounds Great
Yes, these bombers are stupid in every sense of the word. On top of everything else, they keep playing right into Bush's hands.
amazing, isn't it? The more Bush's policies are shown to be a failure, the stronger he gets.
Old 25th July 2005 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by PRobb
amazing, isn't it? The more Bush's policies are shown to be a failure, the stronger he gets.
The evil genius of Karl Rove.

What's more "evil", to be ignorant and to kill?

Or to be intelligent and know exacly what you're doing as you turn the United States of America into a mud slinging fest with no reality and no sense of right or wrong, just "I'm Right and Youre Wrong" for political gain.

As a Patriot I find it all disgusting ... and these are the people who put Cinton on a burning Cross for lying about a blow job to a Grand Jury and doing supposed dishonor to the Presidency.

(Clearly no saint, and a great politician himself, but how good was Clinton now? He never dragged the world through the mud to exercise his desires and to save his own ass, only his wife.)
Old 31st July 2005 | Show parent
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Where are the Rove/Plame updates?

Two weeks after Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) revealed that White House senior adviser Karl Rove's conversations about CIA operative Valerie Plame with columnist Robert D. Novak and journalist Matthew Cooper likely violated a nondisclosure agreement Rove had to sign to gain access to classified information, The Washington Post still hasn't mentioned the nondisclosure agreement. Nor has USA Today. Other papers have been similarly silent, and The New York Times has made only passing mention of the agreement.

As we explained last week, either Rove signed the nondisclosure agreement, or he didn't. If he signed it, his conversations about Plame almost certainly violated that agreement, the consequences of which include "the likely loss of the security clearance." If Rove didn't sign the agreement, he should not have had access to classified information -- in which case his participation in the White House Iraq Group, which "sift[ed] through classified evidence" in a "secure National Security Council conference room" surely merits investigation.

Why, then, are the Post and the Times and USA Today and virtually all of the nation's news outlets ignoring Rove's nondisclosure agreement? One way or another, reporters should have a great story on their hands -- either President Bush's top political aide violated his nondisclosure agreement, or he had access to classified information he should not have been privy to.

And yet ... silence. The Post has run only two substantive articles about the Plame matter this week. USA Today has mentioned Rove's name in only three articles this week -- one guest column, one article about poll results, and one blurb about "Doonsebury" cartoonist Garry Trudeau's use of the phrase "Turd Blossom" -- the nickname President Bush famously gave Rove -- in a recent comic strip. If the Post and USA Today and others are looking for a substantive story to fit in amid the pressing news of the latest "Doonesbury" strip, how about telling readers about the nondisclosure agreement Rove apparently signed -- and what it means if he didn't?

Of course, one reason for the recent lack of quality coverage of the Plame matter is that, as we noted last week, the White House successfully distracted attention from the case by moving up the nomination of John G. Roberts Jr. to the Supreme Court.

Binghamton, New York, Press & Sun-Bulletin associate editor David Rossie offered a blistering critique of the conduct of national news outlets, particularly The New York Times, accusing the White House press corps of being "incapable of dealing with more than one major story at a time":

If you think the timing of the announcement of Roberts' selection wasn't a carefully planned distraction, try to recall the last time a president demanded and got prime television time to make an announcement that ordinarily would have been a 10-minute turn in the Rose Garden, weather permitting.

Six administrations ago, condescending ********* used to joke that Gerald Ford couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time. Someone in this White House, perhaps Rove himself, knew the same was true of the White House press corps: It is incapable of dealing with more than one major story at a time.

Within 24 hours of Roberts' introduction, Rove had become as distant as the Martian Rover and remained so for another 24. And not a moment too soon. The Gerbil, required to dissemble -- or disassemble if you prefer his nominal boss's brand of pidgin English -- as a condition of employment, had been taking such a relentless pounding by the media jackals that it led Jon Stewart to speculate that the White House press corps had been replaced by real reporters.

And Bush himself, a man of his word, we're repeatedly told, was forced to come up with a new dodge. Whereas he'd said earlier that he'd fire anyone in his employ found to have leaked information about Joseph Wilson's wife to the media, his new line was that he'd fire anyone convicted of illegally leaking information.

In some quarters, that would be called flip-flopping, a term we heard used repeatedly last year to describe John Kerry. When Bush does it it's called clarification.


Last Friday, The New York Times, which has addressed this issue with all the enthusiasm of a man attempting to defuse a bomb, returned to its coverage, which has consisted mainly of rambling interviews with anonymous sources bent on portraying Rove and his accomplices as sympathetically as possible.

The Times' reporters appear to have access to several leakers of grand jury information, all of them, not surprisingly, eager to portray Rove as favorably as possible. And in what may be a late addition to The Times' stylebook, any sentence that contains a reference to Wilson, his wife and Rove must contain the notation that Rove didn't mention Wilson's wife by name in outing her.

Of course, Wilson had only one wife working at the CIA as far as we know, but every little bit helps when you're trying to stay on the good side of this administration, as The Times has labored mightily, not to mention slavishly, to do.

When it comes to slavish attempts to stay on the good side of this administration, it's hard to top the non-stop chorus of conservative columnists and pundits who have argued, in the face of all available evidence, that Plame wasn't really covert. Writing at Salon.com, Joe Conason demonstrated the weakness of those claims -- and that was before this week's revelation that a former CIA spokesman testified to the grand jury that Plame was, in fact, undercover:

[Bill] Harlow, the former CIA spokesman, said in an interview yesterday that he testified last year before a grand jury about conversations he had with Novak at least three days before the column was published. He said he warned Novak, in the strongest terms he was permitted to use without revealing classified information, that Wilson's wife had not authorized the mission and that if he did write about it, her name should not be revealed.

Harlow said that after Novak's call, he checked Plame's status and confirmed that she was an undercover operative. He said he called Novak back to repeat that the story Novak had related to him was wrong and that Plame's name should not be used. But he did not tell Novak directly that she was undercover because that was classified.

Further reading: Media Matters continues to debunk false claims about the Plame outing; the blog of the magazine In These Times offers some suggestions for reporters who want to dig a little deeper than the latest "Doonesbury" reference to "Turd Blossom"; Think Progress raises questions about John Ashcroft's involvement in the "12 hour head start."
Old 31st July 2005 | Show parent
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quite some investigation, and the view of a relevant international audience.

plus the connections to the war..

(sorry for coming up late with this)
Old 31st July 2005 | Show parent
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this is just pathetic at this point. bush should be impeached for horboring a criminal and rove should be executed for treason.
Old 1st August 2005 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by alphajerk
this is just pathetic at this point. bush should be impeached for horboring a criminal and rove should be executed for treason.
I think Rove did commit treason even if it turns out he did not technically break any laws. Unfortunately, for the right wingers, self righteousness means he is without sin. I say put him up against a wall and fire away based upon his own admissions.
Old 8th August 2005 | Show parent
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CIA Leak Case By the Numbers

Number of days after the article outing Ambassador Wilson's wife appeared that the White House required its staff to turn over evidence relating to the leak: 85

Approximate hours between then-White House Counsel Alberto Gonzalez's advance notification to White House Chief of Staff Andy Card that he would require staff to turn over evidence relating to the case and formal notification to staff of that requirement: 12

Minimum number of times an Administration official leaked classified information about the identity of Ambassador Wilson's wife: 11

Minimum number of times after the beginning of the Justice Department's investigation that White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan claimed Karl Rove was not involved: 5

Number of press conferences since evidence linking Karl Rove to the leak was made public where Press Secretary McClellan has refused to comment on the case, citing an ongoing criminal investigation: 7

Minimum number of hearings held by Senate **********s to investigate accusations against President Clinton involving the "Whitewater" case: 20

Total hearings held by Senate **********s to investigate the leak of the covert identity of Ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife: 0
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Old 16th August 2005 | Show parent
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The Judy File: Miller’s UN-likely Visitor

Ever since President Bush slipped him through the UN's backdoor via a recess appointment, John Bolton has been giving reporters the cold shoulder. He strode past them when he showed up at the UN on August 2nd to present his letter of appointment, and WaPo columnist Al Kamen shows that he hasn’t opened up much since (via TWN).

But Bolton apparently has a warm spot in his heart for at least one journalist: none other than Judy Miller.

According to a trusted Judy File source, Bolton recently took time out of his busy schedule to pay a jailhouse visit to Judy.

No word on what they talked about.

Maybe they swapped notes on Pat Fitzgerald (Judy: “He really got mad when I wouldn’t tell him what he wanted...” Bolton: “...and they say I’ve got a temper!”(laughter all around))

Or maybe they just talked about old times, when Bolton was reportedly a regular source for Miller’s WMD and national security reports.

Just two potential Plamegate sources shooting the breeze.

For anyone who doesn’t find this jailhouse get-together highly UN-usual, please give me the name of the journalist who, in or out of jail, would get a visit from John Bolton. Other than Bob Novak.

And for any employees of the Alexandria Detention Center who may have been monitoring the Bolton-Miller visit: feel free to give us a call or drop us an e-mail. The Judy File promises to protect your identity... even if it means taking the cell next to Judy’s.
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