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Old 30th January 2009
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Tennis anyone?

Anybody here been watching the Aussie Open?

It's been great... the finals are set.
Federer vs. Nadal & Williams vs. Safina
Both should be a battle.

The beating that Federer put on Roddick was crazy... I really thought Roddick had a chance to win. He lost 15lbs; looked the most fit since his 2003 US Open win and looked to be playing his best tennis. But alas he was dismantled in straight sets; my optimism went out the window in the first set when Federer broke him twice.
Now Federer is set to tie Sampras's grand slam wins record... if he can beat Nadal.

This is the first hard court grand slam final that the two will face each other in.

I haven't had a chance to watch the Nadal / Verdasco semi-final match but the highlights looked sick... it might go down as one of the best matches of the year. It broke a record for the longest match ever at the Aussie Open, lasting over 5 hours.
Old 2nd February 2009
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Yeah it was a great match.

I felt bad for Federer, you could see him trying to hold in all of the emotion and then it just came flowin' out.

Nadal has truly established himself as the #1 player in the world, 6 major titles, and now he's won on all surfaces.
I agree that he's very respectful, and he's extremely humble for a guy in his early 20's, who if he can keep it up at this pace may be the one to break all the records.

Well the French Open in next, I would like to see Federer pull an upset and get at least one French title. It would tie Sampras's record, give him a little redemption, and establish himself as the greatest of all time... at least temporarily... very temporarily with Nadal's winning pace.

It's a great rivalry.
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For a final it was a great match, it was the first 5 set final in 21 years!

Wasn't as good as the Nadal/Verdasco semi but the final is hardly ever as good as either of the semis.

This might have been Federers last chance for the 14th title as Nadal now beats him on any surface seemingly at will. Roger looked a broken man when Nadal took Wimbledon from him, now he looked destroyed. I don't think he believes that he can beat Nadal anymore, certainly not at the french where Nadal has beat him 4x in a row.
Would be a shame though because Federer is truly a gentleman, very rare these days!
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The Nadal / Verdasco semi was amazing; it was one of the best matches I've ever seen. The shot making was surreal.

I know that it's going to be close to impossible for Federer to beat Nadal at the French, but he's still has a punchers chance, you never know. It's not like Federer stinks, he has made it to the finals there the last 4 years. And he has made it to at least the semi's in something like the last 19 grand slams... which is complete insanity.

I think Federer will win at least 2 more major titles before he's done. He did win the US Open last year, which was only about 6 months ago. My guess is that he'll definitely reclaim Wimbledon this year.

Congrats to Serena who won her 10th grand slam singles title... even though the match was a bore.

The US had a great run down under this year...
Serena won the women’s singles.
The Williams sisters won the women’s doubles.
The Bryan brothers won the men’s doubles.

Too bad Blake and Roddick continue to disappoint.
At least Roddick beat Djokovic, a top 5 player to make it to the semi's, which is something he has only done one other time. So I guess it's a good start to the year. I just wish he had put up a better fight against Federer, he seemed to get dismantled so easily.
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Indeed, congrats to Serena for winning and reclaiming the No 1 spot for the third time!
Agreed her final match was boring but her semi-final match was stunning!!!
Just wish she would stop this crass commercialism like that Nike bag she always carefully placed in camera view at every post-match interview before saying a word and then it sounded like she was doing a Nike ad. Except the one after the final, I think she got a telling off after last years in which she thanked Nike, God, Nike, her family, Nike, her coach, Nike, the fans, Nike, the organizers, Nike etc.
Of course everybody is getting sponsored but most manage to retain some dignity.


I have doubts about Federer winning another one. He had everything stacked in his favour in Australia: He was on top form and had an easy semi (Nadals semi was the longest match ever in Australian Open history), an extra days rest and it was on his opponents least favourite surface.
And if Rafa does not make it to a final Andi Murray has also got a winning career record against Roger. Verdasco might keep playing like he was in Oz as well...
That said I think Roger deserves another Grand Slam title but chances are that Nadal could actually take the Grand Slam this year or next.
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Indeed, congrats to Serena for winning and reclaiming the No 1 spot for the third time!
Agreed her final match was boring but her semi-final match was stunning!!!
Just wish she would stop this crass commercialism like that Nike bag she always carefully placed in camera view at every post-match interview before saying a word and then it sounded like she was doing a Nike ad. Except the one after the final, I think she got a telling off after last years in which she thanked Nike, God, Nike, her family, Nike, her coach, Nike, the fans, Nike, the organizers, Nike etc.
Of course everybody is getting sponsored but most manage to retain some dignity.
Lol! So true.heh

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I have doubts about Federer winning another one. He had everything stacked in his favour in Australia: He was on top form and had an easy semi (Nadals semi was the longest match ever in Australian Open history), an extra days rest and it was on his opponents least favourite surface.
And if Rafa does not make it to a final Andi Murray has also got a winning career record against Roger. Verdasco might keep playing like he was in Oz as well...
That said I think Roger deserves another Grand Slam title but chances are that Nadal could actually take the Grand Slam this year or next.
I agree that Murray is coming on strong. He looks poised to win some championships… everyone should be concerned when coming up against him. I’m looking forward to seeing some Nadal / Murray classics in the future.

Nadal could go on to win another 8 championships, but I’m not convinced that he’ll be able to win them so close together. It might take him 3 or 4 years to do it.
So if it plays out like that, it would mean that there would 4 to 8 titles up for grabs.

Federer could easily be in position to possibly scoop up some of them. And there’s still a chance Federer could beat Nadal head to head. They’ve come to the wire a few times.

Federer just needs to get over the hump and convert on some of his break points. He has just fallen apart in that area against Nadal over their last 3 meetings in majors. He has had his chances; he just can’t convert lately.
I think it’s mostly attributed to Nadal being that hard to break… his speed, strength, and spin are just off the charts.
But high performance & high output usually mean high maintenance, and shorter life span.
So we’ll have to wait and see if Rafa can dominate all year round which he hasn’t been able to do yet… let alone year after year after year.

And Verdasco has been great at the AO. I’d like to see him or Tsonga make a run at the US Open this year. They both seem to play higher risk the bigger the moment, with pretty good success on the hard courts. I want a US player to win it, but that doesn’t seem very likely.
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Nadal is just a better athlete than Federer I think. He looks in better shape, more muscularity, etc. Having a talent and being skilled aren't the only things that help out in a match; you need to be a strong athlete.

Look at UFC's B.J. Penn vs Georges St. Pierre... Muscle + Skill beats Skill alone.
I agree Rafa's got more of everything, but that doesn't guarantee longevity.
And even having more of everything and being a lot younger in tennis years, hasn't given him many easy wins against Federer, with last year’s French being the exception.

Federer has been to the finals of something like 18 of the last 19 finals; and done it pretty easily, rarely dropping sets. I know that it has to come to an end sometime, but physically Federer has been the unstoppable, and he doesn’t look too worn. I don’t think I can ever remember him calling for a trainer… or being injured.

Nadal is already starting to show wear and tear... and like many of the big overpowering players before him... he may be forced to pace himself.
I hope not, cause I like watching him play. Time will tell.
Old 3rd February 2009 | Show parent
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Indeed, and Nadal has plenty of that. I just wouldn't underestimate Federer yet, he’s still one of the top three players in the world, and that gives him more than a chance.

Could you imagine Blake beating Rafa in a major final… hahaha!! OK I’m sorry for being so ridiculous.
Old 3rd February 2009 | Show parent
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Federers problem when playing Nadal is probably more psychological by now: They played 19 times, Nadal won the last 8 or so and 13 altogether. He has never beaten Nadal on clay, Rafa ended Rogers 80something game winning streak on grass at last years Wimbledon and now he beat him on hard court.

I don't see Nadal as 'a big overpowering' player: he typically produces fewer aces and winners then his opponents. Its his stamina and mental attitude rather then strength and power that wins him games and he is still improving his playing skills.

Don't know if Rafa will do the Slam this year but Federer is not the guy who is going to beat him. Roger is perfectly capable of beating someone who beat Nadal though and that is his only chance IMO. That or Nadal being injured. Luckily for Roger they will be in different halves of the draw in all tournaments as long as Federer remains No2.

BTW I just found out that Nadal is a natural right-hander but his uncle Toni made him play left-handed because it is an advantage in tennis. Now thats impressive…

What happened to US mens tennis anyway? There is Roddick and Blake who are both top ten players but lets face it there is a huge chasm between the top 4 and the rest of the players. I mean on their day anyone in the top 15 can beat either of the top 4 but to win anything major they'd have to do that twice and that seems highly unlikely.
Old 4th February 2009 | Show parent
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Yeah I was more referring to how hard he hits the ball. Not really serving, but off the ground… and other things also, like how much running he does, how much follow through, how much spin.
I mean I've never seen anyone hit so many crushing winners while on the run... even from ridiculously deep and way off the court.

The analysts were talking about how they were able to track the rpm's of the ball; Roger and Rafa both had highest rpm of the top players. Still Rafa's was 500rpm faster than Federer.

So that's what I meant about the big overpowering... just how this guy has more of everything to throw back at his opponent.
Except for serving, I think he's overpowering... yes including mentally.

Rafa's had some tendon problems in his knees already, he keeps them wrapped.
And he's only won back to back titles once in what... 8 years as a pro.
If he wins the French and Wimbledon this year, I think all my doubts will be erased.

I totally agree that there's a big gap between the top 4 men and the rest of the field.
As far as the current US men, I don't know what's happened.
It could just be timing.
Roddick has lost to Federer in 3 grand slam finals and 3 grand slam semi-finals since 2003, so if you take Federer out of the mix and he could've had up to seven major titles by now. But it is what it is, and I think Andy's chances of another grand slam title maybe slipping away.
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Guess for the french Rafa is a shoe-in. He has never lost there and last year he destroyed Federer in three sets, one set was to love! Nadal did not loose a single set during the whole championship and Roger took only one set off Nadal in three consecutive clay court finals they contested last year.
If those two meet in Wimbledon my money is on Rafa in 4, maybe 5 sets.

I don't think Nadal has been playing on the senior tour for 8 years btw, the kid is only 22 now!
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According to Wiki he turned pro in 2001 at the age of 15 and was ranked in the top 50 by the age of 16. Ok so maybe it's more like 7 years.
Old 24th May 2009 | Show parent
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French Open starts today...

Nadal, Murray, Verdasco, Simon on one side of the men’s draw and Federer, Djockovic, Roddick, Del Potro on the other.

For the women you’ve got Safina, Ivanovic, Venus, Sharapova on one side and Serena, Jankovic, Demetieva, Kuznetsova on the other.

Looks good!



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Old 6th June 2009 | Show parent
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I may well stand very much corrected by this time tomorrow!


Might be interesting as I will support Soderling while my wife is likely to support Federer.
Old 6th June 2009 | Show parent
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I'm pulling for Federer all the way, the guy just deserves it. He's made it to 5 French finals in a row, and has made it to at least the semi's in the last 20 grand slam tournaments... let me repeat 20! That's just unprecedented in any sport.

Soderling has been cruising though, first the shocking beating he put on Rafa. Then he followed that up by beating Davydenko and Gonzalez, all three guys that should've been able to beat him.

It should be a great match and a lot harder for Federer than most would think.
Soderling is tall, so the high bounce at Roland Garros doesn't bother him as much, plus he's playing close to the baseline, moving well, and staying on the attack.

The women’s final is in progress right now, Safina the women’s #1 just lost the first set to Kuznetsova. Kuznetsova is better than most people realize, she surprised people when she won the US Open in '04. I don't think anyone should be surprised if she wins this time around.



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Old 8th June 2009 | Show parent
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Federer wins the French! I don't want to say I told you so, but I did!
He's now the undisputed greatest male tennis player of all time.

Congrats to Kuznetsova on winning her 1st French and her 2nd grand slam title. I wouldn't be surprised if she won a couple more.

Wimbledon starts in two weeks!

It's unbelievable that in this GS community of 60,000+ international peeps, only 2 are interested in tennis. Come on people get with the program!





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that was a good final !
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Yes it was! Interesting how easily but winners won in their final. Safina just had a melt down. Soderling did too I think. I think he was psyched. In his mind I think he believes he cannot beat Federer, since Federer has beaten him 10 times in a row now.
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Tennis is such a gracious sport !
Soderling needs to build the mind aspect a well as the gameplay.
Anyone who reaches the final can do it again and win if they work hard enough .
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Absolutely. But as with most things -- all things -- it's the mind, your own mind, that lets you win or makes you lose.
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I thought it was wonderful what Federer said at the end. And I was too busy to watch too much of it. I but I believe he said that he doesn't wish the other person to lose. That's too mean. That's wonderful. There's a great distinction in wining over your opponent. Two aspects of the same thing, but very different in meaning. One is to win, which means you must defeat your opponent. But the other is to overcome yourself in order to WIN.
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Sean,
I totally agree with and yes you told me so (b*stard)!!!

Roger is the greatest but more then anything he is one of the most gracious winners ever! One of the few allround good guys in professional sports.

And even though I supported Soderling (always for the underdog) I am glad Roger won and he thoroughly deserved it!


Just a shame that, as almost always in Tennis, the semis were the better matches to watch.
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Yes it was! Interesting how easily but winners won in their final. Safina just had a melt down. Soderling did too I think. I think he was psyched. In his mind I think he believes he cannot beat Federer, since Federer has beaten him 10 times in a row now.
Total melt down for Safina, and she still remains #1.

I thought what Soderling said at the end was funny about how he should definitely win the next one because "no one beats him 11 times in a row".


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Sean,
I totally agree with and yes you told me so (b*stard)!!!

Roger is the greatest but more then anything he is one of the most gracious winners ever! One of the few allround good guys in professional sports.

And even though I supported Soderling (always for the underdog) I am glad Roger won and he thoroughly deserved it!


Just a shame that, as almost always in Tennis, the semis were the better matches to watch.

thumbsup

Some rumbling going on about Rafa's knee... he dropped out of the warm up tournament in England. With Wimbledon about 12 days away I wonder if he will be able to defend his title. I hope it's nothing serious, I'd like to see 1 & 2 battle it out on grass again.



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Total melt down for Safina, and she still remains #1.

I thought what Soderling said at the end was funny about how he should definitely win the next one because "no one beats him 11 times in a row".


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Yeah, that was it. LOL!
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That meltdown thing seems to be a family trait.
Her brother Marat is famous for that, Dinara had seemed to have it under control though. But bad habits die hard…
Old 22nd June 2009 | Show parent
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Wimbledon has started!

Nadal will not be defending his title.
He has withdrawn from the tournament with knee problems.

This is Murray's chance...

I'm ready for a Federer/Murray final.

What say you?


ESPN2 has all the coverage.
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Murray will probably never have a better chance. BBC are covering the event til 9pm every night. Come on Andy
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I thought what Soderling said at the end was funny about how he should definitely win the next one because "no one beats him 11 times in a row".


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He actually borrowed that from Vitas Gerulaitis, after he finally beat Jimmy Connors at the 1979 Masters, after losing to Connors 16 straight times...

"Nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitis 17 times in a row" heh

So anyone here play tennis in addition to watching? I try to play at least 3x/week.
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Murray will probably never have a better chance. BBC are covering the event til 9pm every night. Come on Andy
I would like to see Murray win a major... especially Wimbledon. You Brits deserve a champion for hosting what I think is the greatest Grand slam tournament of them all. It's been like what... 150 years since you guys had a champ?

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He actually borrowed that from Vitas Gerulaitis, after he finally beat Jimmy Connors at the 1979 Masters, after losing to Connors 16 straight times...

"Nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitis 17 times in a row" heh

So anyone here play tennis in addition to watching? I try to play at least 3x/week.
That is such a great quote, and actually a very good mental attitude!

I play about once a week in the summers. I'm not very good, but I have fun. I've only been playing for about 5 years. My fiancee has been playing for about 20 years, and she has beaten me every time we've ever played... which is like 50 times.
I've never even won a set from her. I was up 4-2 against her last week, I had broken her serve a couple times and I thought for sure I was going to take my first set from her... but alas she came back and crushed me. So now when I go out to play her I tell myself no one can beat me 51 times in a row!



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