overdrive before the filter would certainly be very cool. Perhaps carts could be designed with a variable overdrive/distortion circuit with mini-knob on the part of the card sticking out?

if a normal cart is $99, an overdrive/filter cart could be $149?


BTW, I voted for Silver/red like in the video presentation unit.

wasn't interested until i saw the second demo. i'm selling my x0xboxes.

So nice I voted thrice.

Just seen the price of the Avalon on the sxpro website for the UK.

Wow

£799 (inc VAT) 665.83 (exc VAT)

Is that price correct?

Will I be able to get it a bit cheaper anywhere else?

Considering what OG Roland TB-303s go for and the quality craftsmanship involved in this product, I think it is quite reasonable. It goes above and beyond the 303 in several important ways but can still do that classic 303 stuff if you want that.

That said, considering my current lack of income, I am more likely to pick up a TB3 for 100 euros than this in the near future.

wow, that is nearly 1100€ with sending. thats a bit more than pronounced (~800€) - sorry i'm out.

if it's 800 USD, i'm mostly in. 700 would be better

aussie dollar is not good I'd be paying closer to $1400 for this...???

oh come on..!! boo hiss.

My schadenfreude levels are going to be over 9000 if the pricing is 800 USD, 1100 EUR

Agreed.

I do think it's twice as cool as a xoxbox or tt-303 and much cooler than a flimsy TB-3. Sorry Roland, I just don't want an instrument I can crush with my thumb.

When can we get on a pre-order list for the Avalon?

Whaouah ; if this thing is listed 1100 euros even as great and nice as it is ; load of peeps won t buy it ... TB-3 is cheap and CYCLONE TT 303 v2 is 449 euros . Bass station 2 ; Pulse 2 are also well priced !!!! but we gotta wait till the selling starts ... pricesalways seems to come down after annoucements




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Yes, $700-$800 US would be the sweet spot.

Hmm. That is expensive. I thought with being 800 USD it would be about £600 for us Brits.

wow, that is like 1100 EUR....hmm.....I guess that since I have a xoxbox currently I won't be upgrading to an Avalon.
I'm tempted as the features of the Avalon are great but I don't use those kind of sounds often enough to justify spending so much money.
Maybe some day I get lucky on the second hand market, who knows.
Nevertheless, seems to be a great device.

Just as a comparison :
currently, a Roland TB-3 is 299 EUR, an Acidlab Bassline 3 is 550 EUR, a TT303 is 449 EUR and you can get a ready built xoxbox for below 400 if you hang out in a DIY Forum and ask a respectable builder.
And you can get the original TB303 between 1200 to 1600 EUR as second hand if you wait long enough and know in which forum to look out.

So it might be that not all that many Avalon Bassline unites can be sold in the EU for a price of 1100 EUR.

I wish the Avalon guys all the best of luck for their product, though.

what starts at 10:25 is one of the coolest 303 patterns i've ever heard
not speaking about the notes, but the GROOVE !.
If you can do this with ANY other hard or soft 303 in this quality (also soundwise) let me know.

people pay 1500 to 1900 for a tb303 nowadays but complain about 1100
for this 100times better 303 ?


hilarious. and i am not rich. but this is hilarious. go to ALDI.

Hi all - regarding price we're just finalizing arrangements with several dealers, and will be adding dealer links to the website on a daily basis the next few weeks. MAP is $949US so you won't find it for sale at a price less than that exchange rate at your location. We've made it as affordable as possible to get it in the hands of as many people as possible; we especially want to get it in the hands of those that may not yet have experience with hardware, or can't afford a $2600 TB-303 and want a big step up from the existing clones. Of course it's a premium instrument and won't be affordable for everyone.

there's a chance the avalon plugin filter design goes open source, but it's a lot more tricky than one might think...but yes, you could potentially do anything between the VCO's and VCA.

Thanks everyone for voting for the colors, it really helps in planning for the correct excess inventory to make sure we have a good ratio of colors. Apologies for hiding the poll results to this point, we wanted an unbiased opinion. We'll probably make it visible in a day or two. For lack of high-res pics yet I'll describe the options a bit.

• Black w/ red: The black is a nice 20% gloss so it's not all shiny with finger prints, but not matte either. The LED's are a nice red - bit more red, less orange than the typical.
• Black w/ green: The same black w/ nice green LED's (not yellow-ish)
• Metallic silver w/ red: This is the one I mentioned looks so great in person but doesn't show up as great in pics and video. Hopefully you can see in person wherever you live.
• White w/ blue: This is a silky matte white. It's really nice. If you're familiar with the virus ti polar's it's like that. The blue are a very specific blue that we like, and the brightness of the LED's is adjustable so no worries about blinding.

Hey abstrakt ; this means that you ll be selling all of those variations but intend knowing in which quantities ??? Also waiting to know where those puppies will be sold



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White with blue sounds clean and classy.

Black w/green is a great choice from a marketing/selling standpoint: it sort of aligns or matches with the Aira line and would generate interest outside of the hardcore 303 purists. A black and green Avalon next to a TR8 would be a sick combo!

First they said 800.- €
Than 860.- €
Now 1100.- €

Sorry, too much for me
;-(

400.- more and I get a Moog Sub 37
tm

Hmmm... $950 puts it out of my hands.

to be fair MAP is 840€, not 1100€. You may find if for 1100 - but chances are you will find it for less.

850€ would be ok, for me and the most
do you have any seller on european mainland, like baxshop or else ?

The uk Price is £800 through SXPro. 840 Euros and 949 US dollars is £620.

I will wait to see what other dealers price it as in the UK or Europe as that is too much of a mark up applied and I think will affect sales.

£650 is fine for me given the premium nature of the instrument, £800 no.

Yes, for me too.

I dont know if abstrakt has calculated sending, taxes and so on in the prices he told us.

It's kind of a tough sell at that price since I can get an Elektron Analog 4 for the same money. The A4 is from a well established company and is a far more versatile instrument sound wise.

The way the swappable filter is implemented is a negative for me as well. An easily removable cartridge that sticks out from the unit could clearly be problematic. How many people are going to be hotswapping during a session/performance? I would rather it be completely enclosed and swappable after opening the case.

the cartridge design is really a non issue in the real world IMO.

1. the design is a Gameboy cartridge meant for holding up to children's abuse. If it can hold up to a 6 year old throwing it on the floor, I think it can handle a musician at a live setting.

2. the cart sticks out really no further than a midi cable or 1/4 straight plug.

3. If the looks of it bother you, the 3.5mm jacks cover up the top of the cart slot so you really won't even see it if you have those jacks plugged into your modular.

the only issue I really have is the price in USD which is indeed at an Elektron A4 level. It is a premium 303 box with a premium feature set. It does sound great hearing it from latest product demo posted the other day. However the reality is that I have to ask do I need this synth when I already have an A4 Keys and was waiting for the still unaccounted for OTO boxes. If it were $150 lower for me it would be an automatic buy. ut at this level I have some decisons to make. Some other gear must go.

best advice i've seen on this forum.

i did some quick math... if you save $80.00 a month for a year, you could get an Avalon. that's 20 a week. eat out less, don't stop at the coffee shop, skip a few rounds at the bar, let your hair grow a little longer... there are ways to save if you REALLY want something.