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Old 19th January 2013
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How do you break the barriers that stop you getting creative...

Afternoon folks,

I'm interested in the barriers we put up to use as excuses for not finishing tracks or things that we do that get in the way of creativity. As an example I need to reorganise some of my studio to get certain things working properly and tidied up, but the thought of scrabbling round the back of patchbay hell is putting me off. That in turn is blocking me finishing off various tunes.

I know I need to stop being such a lazy bugger and sort it, but at the minute I always seem to be able to find something else to do instead (like posting this!).

Does anyone else suffer from this sort of idiocy?

LT

*Crash helmet donned for abuse*
Old 19th January 2013
  #2
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🎧 10 years
having that "bedroom" studio. plan to get some place outside. wife,kids, internet, porn, counter strike..too much distractions. dont remember who said : having studio at home is the same like having gym at home.you need to get outside) totally agree with that. i dream about not expensiove place where ill get a chance to turn my cell phone off. with no internet connection and so on..
Old 19th January 2013
  #3
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Read the book "the artist's way" by Julia cameroon. Do what she says.
Old 19th January 2013
  #4
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🎧 5 years
Thanks both. Slight Irony that I'm now checking this from the studio at home. Arghhhh.
Old 19th January 2013
  #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by allthegear.net ➑️
Afternoon folks,

I'm interested in the barriers we put up to use as excuses for not finishing tracks or things that we do that get in the way of creativity. As an example I need to reorganise some of my studio to get certain things working properly and tidied up, but the thought of scrabbling round the back of patchbay hell is putting me off. That in turn is blocking me finishing off various tunes.

I know I need to stop being such a lazy bugger and sort it, but at the minute I always seem to be able to find something else to do instead (like posting this!).

Does anyone else suffer from this sort of idiocy?

LT

*Crash helmet donned for abuse*
it's not the patchbayhell, or spaghettis that i have a problem rolling my sleeves upto, its getting in mood to create anything when it's all wired up.

i just noodle around every now and then.
Old 19th January 2013
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Watch this video (from about 8:30 onward):

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Quote:
Originally Posted by elvetvelvis ➑️
Read the book "the artist's way" by Julia cameroon. Do what she says.

wikipedia...
Correlation and emphasis is used by the author to show a connection between artistic creativity and a spiritual connection with God

im a bit afraid of religion)
Old 19th January 2013
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🎧 5 years
Yeah there is a lot of good advice in that video.

When it comes to sundry stuff like patching, neatening up or whatever, I always use this as a good excuse to listen. I get one or two mixes of current stuff ready on my ipod and give them a good blast. Since you have a job to do, you are less likely to skip through, and let the mixes play - like the guy with the big system in the auto shop.

When you are done, and everything is neat and ready to go, you feel fired up by what you have heard. I'm sure like a lot of people on this board that time I used to have to just listen seams to have evaporated, so I always do it when I'm fixing something, updating software, file organising or whatever 'cos the days of laying back for an hour or two with some bud and 'phones seam long gone. So you train your mind that thats what you'll mainly be doing, so you might as well de-spaghetti since you aint gonna be dancing round the bedroom are you?
Old 19th January 2013
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A huge part of getting anything done is personal motivation and energy levels. I find myself a million times more productive in all ways when I've been taking care of myself physically and eating well. I know it's boring advice but it be true.
Old 19th January 2013
  #10
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🎧 5 years
So much great advice, thanks all.

The video from @shponglefan is great. I love the listening to mixes idea from @groundbass and the personal motivation aspect from @Alex is so true. The half can of pringles earlier probably wasn't the best energy booster.

After reading this I sacked off the patching and got stuck into a track :-) Still need to do the admin gruntwork but enjoying creating so that's gotta be good. Gonna task myself with finishing it tomorrow and posting here if folks fancy a listen.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Aliferis ➑️
A huge part of getting anything done is personal motivation and energy levels. I find myself a million times more productive in all ways when I've been taking care of myself physically and eating well. I know it's boring advice but it be true.
nope this is awesome advice.
Old 20th January 2013 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Aliferis ➑️
A huge part of getting anything done is personal motivation and energy levels. I find myself a million times more productive in all ways when I've been taking care of myself physically and eating well. I know it's boring advice but it be true.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Looneytune ➑️
nope this is awesome advice.
This is very important. Its a serious and wonderful thing to be attempting to create music, and music that sounds professionally produced. Keeping fit and well is number one on the list.

Those ill.Gates videos really helped me too. That stuff about samplers is so simple and genious.
Old 20th January 2013
  #13
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Knowing that if you don't get a batch of tracks done before the end of the month you will not get an advance. If you don't get the advance you will not be able to pay rent.
Old 20th January 2013
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All the blockages are all just one thing. Fear.
Old 20th January 2013
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Hide the x box controller from myself... :D
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Quote:
Originally Posted by energizer bunny ➑️
This is very important. Its a serious and wonderful thing to be attempting to create music, and music that sounds professionally produced. Keeping fit and well is number one on the list.

Those ill.Gates videos really helped me too. That stuff about samplers is so simple and genious.
Hey Energizer I was actually agreeing here, not sure why I said nope.
I think this is the best advice anyone can give and I agree whole heartedly.

I know when I have either not slept well or had a big night out and not eaten well on a particular day my energy levels are zapped.
Keeping fit is number one on the list, after all can't do much with out good health.
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Originally Posted by the donal ➑️
Hide the x box controller from myself... :D
I gave my Television, PS3 and bose surround sound system to my brother-in law over the Christmas break. Haven't missed any of it yet.
Old 20th January 2013
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I run 3.5 miles a day and have a pull up bar and do 2 or 3 pull ups every time I walk by it. Eat healthy and drink espresso.
Stay hydrated. I drink probably 1 1/2 gallons of water a day.
have a space you go to to do your thing.
only use the internet for short breaks. Be self aware if you are doing it wrong.
Make deadlines for yourself because you will have them irl.
Give yourself space from the studio.
find things that spark your creativity (music, movies, art, nature).
work inside a set of parameters and dont step outside them.
Old 20th January 2013
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🎧 5 years
I find working with a fellow musician as a partner gets the juices flowing increases the quality of musicianship and helps me deal with my limitations as an engineer. It must be someone that I like and works well with me with a common goal in mind.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elvetvelvis ➑️
Read the book "the artist's way" by Julia cameroon. Do what she says.
I've had that book for a good while, and it's excellent.

Also, especially for home studio people like me:

1. Get out. Go to live shows. Watch any good performer or band interact with an audience. Then try to put some of that liveness into your music. That energy alone should spark you to finish projects.

2. Find a counter balancing music partner. If you're a melody guy like me, hook up with a rhythm ace. You don't have to work together all the time, but it's nice to get a dynamic going, solicit a second opinion, or just bounce ideas in real time. But don't hook up with someone who is basically of the same mind as you. You'll just pat each other on the back and end up with more unfinished projects.

3. Know when to walk away. I've always felt that a song should write itself. What I mean is that it should flow naturally. If you write a phrase and cant extend or connect it to something else, leave it alone and start fresh. Once in a while I'll open old unfinished projects. Usually I agree that they weren't worth completing.
Old 20th January 2013
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Exactly I love working with a hook guy because lyrics and arrangements are my strength
Old 20th January 2013
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All right, get ready for your nickle's worth of free advice:



How to Write Songs on Guitar by Rikky Rooksby. Excellent songwriting book with hundreds of chord progressions from modern songs (last 50 years or so.) He has other songwriting books too, but I just happen to have this one.

If you get stuck, or don't know where to go from Cmin, etc, just follow one of the chord progressions. It may not be original, but it will get you unstuck.
Old 20th January 2013 | Show parent
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🎧 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by the donal ➑️
Hide the x box controller from myself... :D
Lol . I love my games. That's how I relax for 15 minutes, or an hour if I need to, between working on music.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Looneytune ➑️
Hey Energizer I was actually agreeing here, not sure why I said nope.
I think this is the best advice anyone can give and I agree whole heartedly.
I knew you were in agreement, thats why I quoted you . Keeping fit cannot be overestimated, your health is your wealth.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JSt0rm ➑️
I run 3.5 miles a day and have a pull up bar and do 2 or 3 pull ups every time I walk by it. Eat healthy and drink espresso.
Stay hydrated. I drink probably 1 1/2 gallons of water a day.
have a space you go to to do your thing.
only use the internet for short breaks. Be self aware if you are doing it wrong.
Make deadlines for yourself because you will have them irl.
Give yourself space from the studio.
find things that spark your creativity (music, movies, art, nature).
work inside a set of parameters and dont step outside them.
Thats how its done.
Old 20th January 2013 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroZon ➑️
All right, get ready for your nickle's worth of free advice:



How to Write Songs on Guitar by Rikky Rooksby. Excellent songwriting book with hundreds of chord progressions from modern songs (last 50 years or so.) He has other songwriting books too, but I just happen to have this one.

If you get stuck, or don't know where to go from Cmin, etc, just follow one of the chord progressions. It may not be original, but it will get you unstuck.
that's a good book.

My methods:
1. go do something else.
2. pull one of Brian Eno's Oblique Strategies
3. give up (erase everything and start all over)
Old 20th January 2013
  #25
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🎧 10 years
Thomas Edison had a sign posted in his workshop/factory which read,
Quote:
"There is no expedient to which a man will not resort to avoid the real labor of thinking."
Creation is thinking. Or labor, if you like. What distractions are in your life outside of the studio? Whether outside activities or activities within the studio, distractions will present themselves at every opportunity.

It seems to me that there is nothing people fear more than achieving their most heartfelt desires. Whenever an opportunity presents itself to avoid directly addressing one's attention to the central core of the cosmos (which I think is what we're all doing when we're in the "zone" of music-making), people will take it.

I've read dozens of books on How To Creative Process. Whether practical, spiritual, historical, allegorical, biographical, or whatever; all the good ones share the same basic message in common: Do it. The only possible (and necessary) ingredients beyond a love of the general realm of activity are the realization that you can achieve whatever you want to achieve and the willingness to tolerate the adversity involved in realizing your goal.
Old 20th January 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cramseur ➑️
3. give up (erase everything and start all over)
Don't erase anything. Just give it time away if you need.

I was working on a tune a couple of weeks ago- I'd finished the composing the night before (nasty writer's block stress out- called a friend to let off steam and got there in the end) and sat at a blank DAW figuring out where to start and how to put it together.

Spend two and a half hours building midi tracks for it and stopped, feeling like I'd have to start again from scratch the following night.

Then I thought- why not jut record it how I played it when I came up with the original idea. Eg. Melody played on the same sound as the bass notes (ie chord root notes played in octaves) together. I was trying to split the arrangement over several sounds/synths and it lost the inspiration I originally had. I actually kept a lot of what I was doing the previous night, but the spark was back.

I think this is important- sometimes you need to remember what inspired you in the first place and that there is a reason for that.
Old 20th January 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by allthegear.net ➑️
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Accept that you are in fact not a producer/songwriter but just a hobbyist who does not need to finish songs.

There is no shame in having music as a hobby only and not making it into a living.
Old 20th January 2013
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🎧 5 years
I keep a laminated chart like this beside the sofa, with a guitar and a portable synth.
Old 20th January 2013
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I find finishing songs (well not songs as there is no singing in my music) the easiest part, once you got a proper groove going. Just record 6 minutes of muting/unmuting tracks, live filter sweeps, mess with the delay settings and stuff and voi la, a new song is born. Then again, I make very simple minimal techno with just a few tracks in each song, the above method might not work for more traditional songs.

The hardest part for me is synthesis. Creating interesting sounds, particularly drums is difficult for me.
Old 20th January 2013
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I find finishing songs (well not songs as there is no singing in my music) the easiest part, once you got a proper groove going. Just record 6 minutes of muting/unmuting tracks, live filter sweeps, mess with the delay settings and stuff and voi la, a new song is born. Then again, I make very simple minimal techno with just a few tracks in each song, the above method might not work for more traditional songs.

The hardest part for me is synthesis. Creating interesting sounds, particularly drums is difficult for me.
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