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Old 14th September 2012
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Mopho x4 vs Prophet 08

I don't like vs threads ("Poly800 vs Matrix12") but this is not about what synth is better of them but differences and reflections so that I make the right purchase (I have P08 in mind):

To me Mopho x4 has more edge or bite but just 4voices. But P08 has 8 voices that can be stacked, that is useful. Expand Mopho with Tetra - not for me (I have enough with small boxes and cales everywhere).

Do they have the same sound engine except that? And what about differences in features?

Mopho x4 has a lower price tag compared to P08. Does the extra cost of P08 give any extra value?
Old 14th September 2012
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P08 does not have suboscillators but you could sort of fake that, by triggering two timbres at the same time; so each key fires up 2 x 2 oscillators. Then you can use the second pair set to an octave lower as subosc (though that wouldn't be a "true" subosc because the clock is independent instead of derived).

The P08 also has more knobs and a bigger keyboard, obviously - though it's still pretty compact - almost JX3P-sized.

Furthermore, the Mopho x4 is not multitimbral.

Either would compliment your current gear pretty well, I think.
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After having tested both synths, I feel the same way about the Mophox4 having more bite.

I think the P08 doesn't have sub oscillators.
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Not very comparable are they?
Having heard and enjoyed you music P08 all the way. It will bring even more life to it. The MoPho's are more bass oriented and only 1 osc per voice, the P08 has two and very flexible.
The Prophet 08 can do sooooooo much! I implore you to get one NOW, my friend. It will blow your mind. Dunno how much research you have done on it, but here are some videos.
Listen to the first chord of this video and you'll have a clue of what you are getting into:
Part 1
Prophet '08 Review by Inside Synthesis - Part 1 - YouTube

Part 2
Prophet '08 Review by Inside Synthesis - Part 2 - YouTube

8 Video series by Keybdwizard maybe the best demo guy on youtube:
Prophet '08 Demo Videos - YouTube
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Not very comparable are they?
Having heard and enjoyed you music P08 all the way. It will bring even more life to it. The MoPho's are more bass oriented and only 1 osc per voice, the P08 has two and very flexible.


Try to research a bit more before posting inaccuracies here, won't you?
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The MoPho's are more bass oriented and only 1 osc per voice
Say what now?

Mopho Monophonic Analog Synthesizer. Specifications. says it's got 2.

The idea behind the Mopho was to offer a new Pro-One - which can be seen as a single voice of the Prophet 5 specification-wise - but it sounds different thanks to various factors. Stripping it down to a single osc makes no sense, unless you derive several waveforms and try to go for an MC-202/SH-101-like device, or a 303 emulator.
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I implore you to get one NOW, my friend
There is just one more friend in the family to convince to get it NOW - but there will be a budget for it soon when I get payd for some equipment I waiting for get payd for... it will pay for a P08 or Mopho, probably P08
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Do they have the same sound engine except that? And what about differences in features?
Identical sound engines. Except: Mopho/Tetra also have sub oscillators and programmable feedback. Tetra is 4-way multitimbral, Mopho X4 is monotimbral, P08 is bitimbral.

Mopho X4/Tetra can do soundwise EVERYTHING a P08 can and more...period. It will even load P08's presets.
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i like how the P08 can have 2 arps running at different speeds on a dual patch (as seen on the part 2 video above) i take it its the only dsi synth that can do it?
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Try to research a bit more before posting inaccuracies here, won't you?
My bad. Calm down.
Obviously no experience with it and not much interest.
Still in all 8 voices vs 4 in one unit?
5 octave board?
Bi- timbral?
No brainer.
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I have seen these videos a number of times and love them. In the "Inside Synthesis" the P08 is compared to the OB-x. I have an Oberheim, but an Xpander. I'm aware of that the OX-x that the P08 is compared with is not exactly the same as the Xpander. But the Oberheims have the same characteer of sound, and I wonder if the P08 would add some new sonic value to me when I have the Xpander?
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P08 is a bit more exensive.

If number of voices & bi-timbrality is not an issue, what are people's opinions on worthiness?
How much difference will the slighly lower amount of knobbage make?

The Mopho X4 is essentially 1/2 a P08?
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My bad. Calm down.
Obviously no experience with it and not much interest.
Still in all 8 voices vs 4 in one unit?
5 octave board?
Bi- timbral?
No brainer.
I am calm and doing my homework before posting that's all I said. So in the topic, you can't imagine how *fat* compared to a P08 can the Mopho/Tetra sound with the suboscs/feedback.

So to me, Mopho X4+Tetra vs P08, no brainer...
Old 14th September 2012
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if you dont need the keyboard get the prophet 08 module 2nd hand , they are well under a grand , more knobs , bitimbral , split mode , 8 voices etc etc.

to clarify sound engine wise the only difference is the feedback on the mopho , you can run split mode on the 08 for 4 osc's and set them up exactly the same as the sub osc setup on the mopho and yes they are sync'd , its a dco synth , all osc's sync to the same digital clock.

im really not sure what the market of the x4 is , especially with cheap 2nd hand 08s plentiful . I think they would have been better to target a sub 1000$ knobby desktop module than another $1500 keyboard. A tetra without the horrible budget interface . you know that would keep the bedroom bangers very happy.
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My two cents.

Premise: I own and heavily use the prophet08. I owned and heavily used the tetr4 and the mopho. For all of them I used both keyboard and module versions, except the mopho 4x, which I didn't test myself.

1) I would refrain from DSI keyboard versions. DSI paneld and sound engines are two nothes above they keybeds.

Since you own several possible "masterkeyboards", choose the module.

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Originally Posted by Analog Prophet ➡️
To me Mopho x4 has more edge or bite
huh?

They have exactly the same sound engine, with the exception of two suboscillators, which are, though, limited in waveform (identical to the main OSC). More: the DSIs use DCOs, so the suboscillator is in fact just subharmonics of the main OCS. No beating, nothing, between the OSC and the sub.

I wouldn't pay for that.

I tried it, and I didn't.

In the end I chose prophet08 as my DSI synth to go, and I don't regret the subOScs,

considering:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Analog Prophet ➡️
just 4voices.
...er... that makes exactly HALF the P08 voices.

Not a small difference.

Hence, a consideration about price:

Quote:
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has a lower price tag compared to P08. Does the extra cost of P08 give any extra value?
well,

in a nutshell, yes.

the prophet08 goes for 2099$,
while the mopho 4x costs 1299$

considering 1000 to be the cost of keys and 4 voices [albeit the p08 panel is way better]

You pay 200 MORE for

a) the sub OSCs

b) polytimbrality [with 4 voices? either you use it as 4 monos, or you won't use it. Bichords anyone? Uhm...]

The prophet08 is more seriously polytimbral, since it gives you 4 voices per part (2 parts), which allows for two pads or a pad and a fat lead to be played at the same time

In the end, I would strongely recomment the p08.

Since I don't like the keybeds, I would meet budget considerations by going for a desktop PE version for 1549$

NOTE: I compared official DSI prices for NEW, so that the comparison be fair

A used P08 PE desktop can be had for 1000.

Hope this helps
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You pay 200 MORE for

a) the sub OSCs

b) polytimbrality [with 4 voices? either you use it as 4 monos, or you won't use it. Bichords anyone? Uhm...]
c) ****ing feedback

...and, for one more time, the X4 is NOT multitimbral.


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Originally Posted by tvsky ➡️
im really not sure what the market of the x4 is , especially with cheap 2nd hand 08s plentiful . I think they would have been better to target a sub 1000$ knobby desktop module than another $1500 keyboard. A tetra without the horrible budget interface . you know that would keep the bedroom bangers very happy.
Maybe for those who already own a Tetra and want the extra 4 voices, knobs and a keybed...
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c) ****ing feedback
you are right, and you gave good advice: f*** the feedback.

Quote:
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the X4 is NOT multitimbral.
even worse.

Go for the p08.

Layering the p08 on itself is a pleasure which is definitely worth ... er... SAVING 200 bucks.
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you are right, and you gave good advice: f*** the feedback.
Because you don't use/like it, doesn't mean that others don't use/like it as well...

Apart from that I agree to the fact that 8 voices are more important. But as I said before, to me a Mopho X4 plus Tetra would be the ultimate choice...
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I like hands-on-knobs. What I understand Mopho x4 is not that kind of machine compared to P08 that has plenty of knobs to keep my fingers busy. I guess the Interface with menus therefore are differnt, with more display reading with Mopho x4?

And BTW, has Mopho x4 feedback?
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And BTW, has Mopho x4 feedback?
Isn't this question answered multiple times already in this particular thread?
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Isn't this question answered multiple times already in this particular thread?
You missed the smilie - it was a joke because it has been mentioned very many times in this thread
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It doesnt only have feedback. It ha ****ing feedback !
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You missed the smilie - it was a joke because it has been mentioned very many times in this thread
Oh...ok, makes sense now!
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It doesnt only have feedback. It ha ****ing feedback !
Yes, as a matter of fact it has ****ing, ballsy, hugey, fatty, dirty feedback!
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Because you don't use/like it, doesn't mean that others don't use/like it as well...
you are maybe missing a point:

I was giving MY personal OPINION

about an instrument I know and value for some features and not for others.

It's up to the OP deciding what he likes and what he doesn't, which opinions he will follow and which he won't.

This is what threads are about.

If everybody expects everybody else to say the same thing he says,

NOTHING CAN EVER BE DISCUSSED.


Quote:
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Isn't this question answered multiple times already in this particular thread?
And: a modicum of sense of humour can help in life.

Disclaimer: this also is just a personal opinion: may not be valid for everybody
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i have a poly evolver keyboard, a juno 106 and a slim phatty. i have owned lots of other analogs too.

just got the prophet 08 rack

amazing...i love it. to me, i already have a 4 voice synth (the PEK) so i wanted a lot of voices and also i think all the mophos are ugly.
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subosc because the clock is independent instead of derived).
use sync?
Old 14th September 2012
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Prophet 08 will also be more a classic than Mopho x4
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fight fight fight!!!!!
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Quote:
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you are maybe missing a point:

I was giving MY personal OPINION

about an instrument I know and value for some features and not for others.

It's up to the OP deciding what he likes and what he doesn't, which opinions he will follow and which he won't.

This is what threads are about.

If everybody expects everybody else to say the same thing he says,

NOTHING CAN EVER BE DISCUSSED.




And: a modicum of sense of humour can help in life.

Disclaimer: this also is just a personal opinion: may not be valid for everybody
Wow...you seriously need to chill down...and please don't change my words, it's pathetic...

About the joke, you don't seriously expect everyone to guess what's a joke and what not in a written post, won't you? Give me a break dude...
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