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Old 2nd April 2011 | Show parent
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I don't know if I got this correctly, but can this be a modeling synth like the Yamaha VP1?
If that's the case, I think it's great, despite it has one of the worse looks ever...
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IMO Roland can still vastly improve on the fantom workstation. I think they've so far really missed the mark to make them sampler's workstation's -they're mostly Roland rompler playback devices, the VA has been all over the place and never really combined well with waveform playback synthesis.

better management of patches (individual program/individual banks)
save multiple bank's/import patches and bank management with directory structure (like MV8800)
16/24 bit sample import
more user program space
Better implemented VA synth (like mv8000 and 8800) with patches and polyphony
cleaner GUI and DAW integration
more RAM (standard)
high quality DAC

when you think about it this is just a combination of Fantom G/D50/Vsynth/SH201/MV8800/Vpiano, nothing special but each has it's pluses.
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  #453
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I want to hug the people at Roland for this. It's one of the most epic acts of trolling that I've ever seen. Go figure - even the Juno reincarnations have more sliders and knobs than this.

"Sacred"? ****, the only thing that's sacred is cold hard cash. Why synth manufacturers should be magically exempt, I don't know.

Go Roland!
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I am prepared for BIG disappointment, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day.

dfegad Roland
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Originally Posted by Syn303 ➑️
Yawn!! all this talk is boring, time for another pic!!

I just saw this.


Why don't we have a DOUBLE facepalm icon???
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Seriously, what's up with the V-Link thing?

Is there a hardcore Japanese cult that uses this or what?
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Seriously, what's up with the V-Link thing?

Is there a hardcore Japanese cult that uses this or what?
Cheezy example:



Skip to the last quarter for a more ''hip'' demo:



heh
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Yeah, these are Roland reps, but does anyone really use it besides Roland guys in demos?
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We've speculated enough about the loaded sounds...
BUT how GOOD/BAD could be a GUI Editor on Mac and PC???
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Yeah, these are Roland reps, but does anyone really use it besides Roland guys in demos?
None popped out in my search so I think your on to something.

Having said that some DJ types would use it on some products but then they have other solutions too.
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Now the real specs our our guessing removed

Last edited by SonicBern; 6th April 2011 at 01:06 PM..
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When I heard Roland was wheeling out a new Jupiter, I knew better than to think it would be analog, but I allowed myself to think for a minute that maybe their engineers had been quietly working away the last few years on some killer new digital synth that would up the ante for how good VA could sound and maybe even make Access a tad nervous. Wasn't expecting the Jupiter name to be pasted onto a GM-on-steroids keyboard full of general-purpose instruments for your next Dancing With the Stars gig. Maybe there's more to it than that, but the description of the control markings is not so encouraging. I can't imagine an instrument geared towards deep sound design having buttons labeled Church Bells, Accordion, Harmonica, etc.
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Church Bells-on-steroids


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=Vectorman;6498607]I can't imagine an instrument geared towards deep sound design having buttons labeled Church Bells, Accordion, Harmonica, etc.


It's not ... Not this one anyway ... Roland is going after the most lucrative market first: gigging musicians who don't need nor want a programmer's interface, which would drive up the price anyway with all the controls ... Roland looks like it's going after a profit here ... And with a presumably all-new soundset, there is alot of development cost they need to re-coup ...

With Kronos, not as much since it's all basically from the O ...

Roland could easily release other versions down the line ... I'm sure it's part of their strategy ...

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Originally Posted by Vectorman ➑️
When I heard Roland was wheeling out a new Jupiter, I knew better than to think it would be analog, but I allowed myself to think for a minute that maybe their engineers had been quietly working away the last few years on some killer new digital synth that would up the ante for how good VA could sound and maybe even make Access a tad nervous. Wasn't expecting the Jupiter name to be pasted onto a GM-on-steroids keyboard full of general-purpose instruments for your next Dancing With the Stars gig. Maybe there's more to it than that, but the description of the control markings is not so encouraging. I can't imagine an instrument geared towards deep sound design having buttons labeled Church Bells, Accordion, Harmonica, etc.
There's many a pop song with those sounds used, but I do hear you heh

It's like a sports car with a large sign on the back saying ''able to hold a zimmer frame''
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''able to hold a zimmer frame''
HA! Had to look that one up. Over here we call them "walkers".

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hey Sonicburn

are you in UK?
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This had better have POLYPHONIC aftertouch
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So it's geared for live music and makes use of the latest technology for realistic sounds etc.. I always find this extremely weird. Anyone who plays live music knows that by the time the sound comes out a PA or keyboard amp any nuance is long gone. The fact that the piano or string sound or whatever is 5% more realistic is so far beyond relevance at that point it's stupid. No live musicians need this, you go out and buy whatever has the best keyboard action, ease of use, programmability and splits etc.. and call it a day. In the studio of course is a completely different scenario.
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This had better have POLYPHONIC aftertouch



heh
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Yawn!! all this talk is boring, time for another pic!!

There is no way on earth that is the new synth. No way. End of the story. dfegadapril fools' joke.
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Originally Posted by i604 ➑️
We've speculated enough about the loaded sounds...
BUT how GOOD/BAD could be a GUI Editor on Mac and PC???
If it would only have a viable file format of all things and patch editor (as in samples)
But yeah Yamaha is starting to dig into the whole Cubase-Motif integration workflow
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There is no way on earth that is the new synth. No way. End of the story. dfegadapril fools' joke.
Well, then ... It's getting pretty elaborate ... Art from Roland Clan has confirmed the Jupiter-80 and there's already a forum section created over there ...
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Just for some aesthetic balance, I'm posting a 2/3rds picture of the mighty originals ...



Even keeping in mind the new focus, the Jupiter-80 bender section is pretty barren ...
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Wow ... When going back and forth between the originals and the new offering, Jupiter-80 looks like a toy ... (That USB stick door looks particularly horrid ... )

Is this thing really going to be $3k+ ... ???
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The one thing that was always fugly on the Jupiter-4 was those buttons below the keyboard. So what do Roland do to the original slender JP-8 lines..?

(sorry just had to facepalm)
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Forgive me if this has been said already, bu as much as we all want a new analogue or at least super-VA Jupiter, isn't the rumored synth really a true follower of the JP8?

Had Roland been able to, I'm sure they would have aimed to emulate real instruments with the JP8. The synth we got was the result of them failing, much like the 808 etc.

So I can't say I am surprised. Disappointed? Sure. But I was never expecting Roland to listen to us synth-nerds...
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Keyboards today are for giggers... because that's who buys this ****.

I don't know why you guys get your panties all bunched up over this stuff...
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Keyboards today are for giggers... because that's who buys this ****.

I don't know why you guys get your panties all bunched up over this stuff...
a lot of them are aimed at the guys who play tunes at the coffee shop in your local barnes and noble book store... and at your local casino etc.

i don't expect hans zimmer or clint mansell to grab the new JP-80 heh

i don't know what i'd do with a KB like the kronos or oasys or this JP thing. i know there are things they must do well and i'm sure they have some tricks up their sleeves but i can think of far better things to spend my $$$$ on.
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Except for the random Roland JD/JV synths... I don't like/trust any synth made after 1987.

oh wait... except the new SEM. That thing rules.
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