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Yamaha TX-802 / DX-7II / SY-77 Opinions?
Old 2nd December 2017
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How does the CS6x with Dx card compare to the SY77? In terms of nailing the DX sounds.
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Originally Posted by Lazer Toms ➡️
How does the CS6x with Dx card compare to the SY77? In terms of nailing the DX sounds.
The DX card is a DX7S (monotimbral DX7mkII), so it nails the DX sound because it is a DX.

SY77 is based off the DX so it sounds like a DX but does a lot more. Yamaha called it Advanced FM, so it can sound like a DX but doesn't load DX sounds without a translator.

If I recall correctly, the CS6x can't access all the parameters of the DX card. You'll need software, and if you're using OSX, you might be out of luck. You'll have to double-check that.

Hope that makes sense.
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Originally Posted by robotunes ➡️
The DX card is a DX7S (monotimbral DX7mkII), so it nails the DX sound because it is a DX.

SY77 is based off the DX so it sounds like a DX but does a lot more. Yamaha called it Advanced FM, so it can sound like a DX but doesn't load DX sounds without a translator.

If I recall correctly, the CS6x can't access all the parameters of the DX card. You'll need software, and if you're using OSX, you might be out of luck. You'll have to double-check that.

Hope that makes sense.

Cool, thanks for the info
Old 8th October 2018 | Show parent
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No Sounddiver is the best software editor for it - it's the only one that will allow you to create your own algos and link the 2 filters

TG77 sounds richer to me that the TX802. Smoother and more complex tone. It can sound closer to an analog synth
After you've used the TG77 for a while, a lot of things that take for granted on the TG77, will be missing in the DX7/TX802 and will annoy you.

can you save these new algos?
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can you save these new algos?
I haven't used one in decades so I can't remeber
Old 9th October 2018 | Show parent
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can you save these new algos?
SY Manager 5 (US$25 at fm-alive.com, free 30-day trial) lets you modify one of the 45 algorithms to create your own and save them with the patch. I don't think you can recall the new algorithm from a new patch. Looks like you have to rebuild it every time.

Opens up new ways of connecting ops but having 3 assignable feedback routings is enough for me.
Old 18th September 2022
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I am bumping this thread .
My tg77 is now collecting dust because I still haven’t managed to replace the screen .
I’ve made an enormous amount of patches on the fabulous plogue ops7 ( dx7) emu , and since sy manager can convert dx to sy/tg it’ something I will try asap.
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Originally Posted by robotunes ➡️
SY Manager 5 (US$25 at fm-alive.com, free 30-day trial) lets you modify one of the 45 algorithms to create your own and save them with the patch. I don't think you can recall the new algorithm from a new patch. Looks like you have to rebuild it every time.

Opens up new ways of connecting ops but having 3 assignable feedback routings is enough for me.
But if you save the new algo with init operator settings , you can just load it again , no ?
Old 18th September 2022
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There is a faulty conversion , algoritm 4 on the dx7
I made a patch on ops7 , see screenshot , the feedback has 3 operators in one feedabck loop , saved as sysex .
WHen loaded in FM alive ad converted to tg77, you'll notice that operator 6 takes the output of operator 3 at is second input , while it should take the output of operator 4 to create the feedback loop
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Algoritm 6 for dx7 ( 2 operators in feedback loop) is also converted wrong
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