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Old 23rd July 2015
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Sh5 looks so bad ass
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Sh5 looks so bad ass
True dat.
But it still doesn't help me to decide for which SH-model (between the mentioned ones: 2 - 5 - 7) I should go hunting.

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Old 23rd July 2015
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Flavio I have owned the 2 and I currently own the 5, played the 7, the 5 trumps the 7 in so many ways and is just amazing the band pass filter is something dreams are made of... The SH2 does not sound like the sh5, its a raw sh101 and is amazing, if you have the money get the SH5 and the SH2 as they are very different, bit like comparing a Moog Model D to an Arp Odyssey...

The SH5 is my favourite ever mono.....
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Flavio I have owned the 2 and I currently own the 5, played the 7, the 5 trumps the 7 in so many ways and is just amazing the band pass filter is something dreams are made of... The SH2 does not sound like the sh5, its a raw sh101 and is amazing, if you have the money get the SH5 and the SH2 as they are very different, bit like comparing a Moog Model D to an Arp Odyssey...

The SH5 is my favourite ever mono.....
Hi Dirtycircuit, thanks for your reply. You sound really enthusiastic, as others in this thread are when they speak about (their) SH-5! :-)
I actually have a couple of mono synths, like Boomstar 4075, SH-101, Moog Prodigy, TB-303... but yes, none of these has a bandpass filter!

It's kinda hard to get SH-5... sad!
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Hi Dirtycircuit, thanks for your reply. You sound really enthusiastic, as others in this thread are when they speak about (their) SH-5! :-)
I actually have a couple of mono synths, like Boomstar 4075, SH-101, Moog Prodigy, TB-303... but yes, none of these has a bandpass filter!

It's kinda hard to get SH-5... sad!
F.
Just get one you will thank me later.....Would compliment your current synths
Old 23rd July 2015 | Show parent
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It's kinda hard to get SH-5... sad!
F.
But it's worth. SH-5 blows away most of analogs. It sounds unreal good.
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But it's worth. SH-5 blows away most of analogs. It sounds unreal good.
True Dat..........
Old 24th July 2015
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I can't believe Don ever questioned getting an SH-5!
Old 24th July 2015
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I just want to reiterate how cool the sh5 looks
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I can't believe Don ever questioned getting an SH-5!
I bought it from a mate in UK who would sometime use the term bollocks which really annoyed me anytime i would hear it.



Anyway, ideas... ideas and one just came. I should send the wiped out bender panel to customsynth for new paint / lettering. That should make it brand new. Still didn't replace the caps and cleaned the pots/faders. The synth is bitch to take apart. No courage to do the work.
Old 24th July 2015
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... and I'm now having GAS for this SH-5 thing - but nowhere to be found!!! :-(
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I've bought and sold over 25 synths the last 5 years, and one which I've kept all this time is the SH-5. It's just the bomb. You can watch a few of my videos in which it's featured on my YouTube channel.
Old 24th July 2015
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Hi Ned, interesting sounds you get out of that beast in your videos!
I need one as well!!!
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Old 18th April 2017 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Don Solaris ➑️
Soundwise or feature-wise?

I assume SH-5 isn't as FAT as MiniMoog. But maybe i'm wrong. Bascialy same oscillators, but different filter design and slope. I assume SH-5 has less energy in the "punch" since signal goes whrough wider frequency area (12dB) against Mini's focused 24 dB.

I own both a vintage MiniMoog and an SH5. My vote, if money/space aren't an issue, would be to own them both, as they're different.

If you held a cocked chicken to my head, I'd take the SH5.

Why?
-Just as Phat (although "fat" is an objective word).
-The Band Pass Filter is Da Bomb!!!
-More modulation flexibility/Routing options
-More Features - S&H, Ring Mod, Multi Mode Filt, etc...

The SH5 is probably my fav pre-wired Mono.

I've never played a 7, but before I bought the 5, someone advised me to take the 5 over the 7.

PS: I agree with my fellow Gear Slut, Ned. I've also bought/sold many analog synths over the years, and the SH5 always stays. I can't imagine my studio without one.
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Now, the sh7 is paraphonic duophonic, if my memory is correct. Have to check out some sh7 demos as I love duophonic synths!
Old 19th April 2017 | Show parent
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I own both a vintage MiniMoog and an SH5. My vote, if money/space aren't an issue, would be to own them both, as they're different.

If you held a cocked chicken to my head, I'd take the SH5.

Why?
-Just as Phat (although "fat" is an objective word).
-The Band Pass Filter is Da Bomb!!!
-More modulation flexibility/Routing options
-More Features - S&H, Ring Mod, Multi Mode Filt, etc...

The SH5 is probably my fav pre-wired Mono.

I've never played a 7, but before I bought the 5, someone advised me to take the 5 over the 7.

PS: I agree with my fellow Gear Slut, Ned. I've also bought/sold many analog synths over the years, and the SH5 always stays. I can't imagine my studio without one.
Cool story, bro!

Old 19th April 2017
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Hey Don I have an opinion on this that can help you!
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True dat.
But it still doesn't help me to decide for which SH-model (between the mentioned ones: 2 - 5 - 7) I should go hunting.

F.
Let me make it ez for you. Get an SH5! You won't go wrong - and it's the one. Sonic FlipOutness, more than features, is what counts - and the 5 is the 1. I was in the same boat as you, and I was told to get the 5. I've never looked back and you won't either.

And I may buy a second one (just so you know how much I love them. And I've probably owned 80-85% of the Analog Mono Classics).
Old 14th June 2017
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Hello!
Absolute begginer in analog synth here!

I may in few weeks put my hands on a Roland SH-5.

My problem is that I love the SH-1 and, like a child wanting a candy, I want one.

So my question is :
When you have a SH-5, is buying a SH-1 absolutly useless?
I'asking this from a musical point, the money question doesn't count on this one.

Thanks for your answers.
Old 30th June 2017 | Show parent
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No need for SH-1 if you get the SH-5.
Old 30th June 2017 | Show parent
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No need for SH-1 if you get the SH-5.
Thank you for your answer.

From what I've heard The SH-1 is made with System 700 components, something the SH-5 is not.

But if you say that the sounds you create with the 1 can be done with the 5, I understand the uselessness of having both keyboards and the favoring of the bigger one.

Last edited by Vilak; 30th June 2017 at 09:12 AM.. Reason: wrong typing
Old 30th June 2017 | Show parent
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Thank you for your answer.

From what I've heard The SH-1 is made with System 700 components, something the SH-5 is not.

But if you say that the sounds you create with the 1 can be done with the 5, I understand the uselessness of having both keyboards and the favoring of the bigger one.
I would say it probably is worth having both.

I'm not familiar with the SH-1 so seek more opinions but I do have an SH-09 and a System 100. They sound very different in tone. So If the SH-1 is at all like the 09, it will sound very different to the SH-5
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No need for SH-1 if you get the SH-5.
I would say there is less of a need for a SH-1 if you have an SH-7 but the SH-1 is sufficiently different in tone from an SH-5 to warrant having both if you have the space and money.

The SH-1 is a lovely little synth. It's simple and sounds good. It is its simplicity and pleasant user interface that makes it worth having even if you have a raft of other synths to turn to.

The SH-5 is more complex and does many things that the SH-1 does not. But the SH-1 has the lovely sounding cascaded OTA filter and an envelope follower that the SH-5 doesn't. I prefer the sound of the SH-1 over that of the SH-09 and SH-101.

I've got no SH synth these days as I prefer a more modular approach. But I do miss the looks and the immediacy of my old SH-1.


I've said this before but between the SH-5 and SH-7:

SH-7 beats the SH-5 by having:

- duo-phonic control over the VCOs. This is nice.

- much faster ADSRs

- SH-3 style square wave organ outputs on one VCO

- nicer pitch bend lever

- better looks

- better sounding low pass filter (modding it improves it more)

- VCO sync but it's not quite as good as it should be

- Envelope follower

SH-5 beats the SH-7 by having:

- an extra band pass filter

- better routing

- more flexible (diode ladder) filter but not as nice sounding LPF

- noise generator sounds more fuller

- better sounding VCOs

- one more LFO

One is therefore not better than the other. They are really rather
different machines.

All in my opinion of course.

Tony
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- better sounding low pass filter (modding it improves it more)
Can you tell us more about these filter mods, pretty please?

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Old 30th June 2017 | Show parent
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To me the filter on the sh-7 is not good. thin and weak sounding.
Old 3rd July 2017 | Show parent
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Can you tell us more about these filter mods, pretty please?
I like to have a bit more signal going into the filter to overdrive it more. The SH-7 is a little too clean. Changing R548 to 150K increases the filter mixer gain just sufficiently to push the filter harder. Linking out the superfluous C525 electrolytic may have (minimal) benefits too.

Changing R5106 to 15K and R5107 to 4K7 improves the sound of the resonance.

Decreasing R5164 to 51K drives the final VCA harder and again I think this improves the sound. Replacing the final op-amp, IC513, with something like a OPA134 will reduce the noise. The VCA's predominant tone comes from the NPN pair at the front end so replacing this op-amp doesn't affect the 'vintage' sound.

Overdriving the VCF and VCA does increase intermodulation distortion. However, you can control the levels of the signals with the VCF mixer so just keep the sliders down a bit if you need to keep it clean. The little LED lights up when 'overdrive' is taking place.

There are some earthing issues in the SH-7 that result in increased susceptibility to stray radio frequency signals. Unfortunately, I don't have easily described details on how to do this but it does involve moving some of the 0V connections around internally.

Tony
Old 3rd July 2017
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Just for research, I have posted the flow diagrams of the
Roland SH-7 and the Yamaha CS-40m.
This way you can compare and contrast two
multi-note synths.
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SH-5 vs SH-7 ?-sh-7-flow.jpg   SH-5 vs SH-7 ?-cs-40-flow.jpg  
Old 30th September 2019
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Nice Thread! I have just tried the SH5 two days ago and I can't forget that sonic experience which is so unique and organic. I have whole bunch of mono synths including ARP2600, Pro One, TB303, SH101, SH09, etc. And this SH-5 is a real beast!

Now I am heading to that music shop again.......
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