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Old 2nd October 2022
  #8131
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I said useful to a crutch. You focus on crutch.

I make my own patches without this feature very easily. You would have no bother either. Classic it's there so I need to use it mentality. Yes it would be nice to have it there. But who cares ultimately if it's not.

Not critical is my only point.
Old 2nd October 2022
  #8132
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The Low Frequency Expander now supports the Oberheim OB-X8. Beta firmware 3.7.0 and new manual are available in the usual place. For this to work you need to have either the All Synths Package or buy the extra synth upgrade for this. Then hold shift and restart the LFE for it to build the new patch files.

74 Destinations to modulate! Velocity -> Attack rate, 16-step sequencer x mod wheel -> noise level, aftertouch -> detune..........

The top-left knob controls Unison voice detune.

If you have the Option Pack you can use the 8 envelope knobs to control 8 of the Page 2 parameters. I've pre-installed a CC Set so that the following knobs are set up and ready to go... all you need to do is turn on Engage, select Panel mode for the envelope and start turning knobs:
Knob 1: Osc 1 level
Knob 2: Osc 2 level
Knob 3: Noise level
Knob 4: Filter key tracking amount
Knob 5: Osc 2 PW
Knob 6: X mod amount
Knob 7: Filter Type
Knob 8: Number of Unison voices

Destination Poly AT lets you control the synth's filter cutoff polyphonically via the synth's Aftertouch -> filter button, so you can have the LFE sending its sequencer, 6-stage envelope and complex LFOs per voice.
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  #8133
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Originally Posted by Station2station ➡️
And yes, critical due to it's simplicity to add in code. It's in the realm of "Jeez, why not?" It's a simple if/then if/else procedure.
Clearly their engineers haven't discovered the simple if/then if/else procedure yet. But even that seems overcomplicated - there are only two options in firmware (0 and 1). How long can it possibly take to decide? If I was in charge I would have already issued a stop ship until all the critical-due-to-simplicity issues were fixed.
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  #8134
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Originally Posted by Channelizer ➡️
The Low Frequency Expander now supports the Oberheim OB-X8. Beta firmware 3.7.0 and new manual are available in the usual place. For this to work you need to have either the All Synths Package or buy the extra synth upgrade for this.
Are these still available to purchase? Website? Thamks!
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  #8135
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Are these still available to purchase? Website? Thamks!
No, I stopped making them a few months back. They come up occasionally on eBay/Reverb. I've done this update for myself and the 220 users, many of whom will have an OB-X8 now. I'm thinking of making another batch of 30 or so if there's enough interest - and crucially - if I can get hold of the chips!
Old 2nd October 2022
  #8136
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I think i am going to put my Omega 8 on reverb and pick this up. The SE sounds flat and dull compared to the Obie.
Old 3rd October 2022
  #8137
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I recreated my favorite song of the 80's using the OB-X8 for the synth & keyboard parts. I hope that you enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by Quantum7 ➡️
I recreated my favorite song of the 80's using the OB-X8 for the synth & keyboard parts. I hope that you enjoy it.
Good job. The LiveAid version of this song brings tears to my eyes. In fact the entire Queen performance that day.

They had fallen out of favor a little bit on the charts, and they came out that day and absolutely destroyed it.
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  #8139
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Originally Posted by Channelizer ➡️
No, I stopped making them a few months back. They come up occasionally on eBay/Reverb. I've done this update for myself and the 220 users, many of whom will have an OB-X8 now. I'm thinking of making another batch of 30 or so if there's enough interest - and crucially - if I can get hold of the chips!
Thanks for this. I’ve used my LFE with both P10 and OB6. Will be getting the OBX8 add-on early in 2023. LFE turned out to be a really good buy.
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  #8140
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Originally Posted by Station2station ➡️
Good job. The LiveAid version of this song brings tears to my eyes. In fact the entire Queen performance that day.

They had fallen out of favor a little bit on the charts, and they came out that day and absolutely destroyed it.
I was there that day and it was as memorable as you can imagine.

It’s interesting that the narrative from the recent Bohemian Rhapsody film is now becoming “fact”. They really weren’t out of favour. The previous year they had been number 1 in the UK charts and were on a hugely successful world tour during the Live Aid era.

Their use of OB on Flash Gordon is why my friend bought his.
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  #8141
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Originally Posted by Circuit3 ➡️
I was there that day and it was as memorable as you can imagine.

It’s interesting that the narrative from the recent Bohemian Rhapsody film is now becoming “fact”. They really weren’t out of favour. The previous year they had been number 1 in the UK charts and were on a hugely successful world tour during the Live Aid era.

Their use of OB on Flash Gordon is why my friend bought his.
Very Jealous you were there. I never saw that Bohemia's Rhapsody film. Regarding them not being what they had been - I'm going on the words of Sir Bob Geldof and memory confirmation.
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  #8142
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🎧 5 years
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Originally Posted by Station2station ➡️
THIS IS A WONDERFUL review. These are the Oberheim sounds that people don't focus on.

Sound such as 15:00, 16:15, and 24:28. Beautiful emotive timbres with absolutely no Tom Sawyer or Jump that owners just can't seem to get beyond.

Nick did a great job with the arpeggiator explanation. Sounded very musical and a happy-accident generator for those moments when your creative ideas are fleeting.
That patch at 15:00 is seriously one of the best things I've ever heard from an analog synth. Almost enough to make me start putting my spare change in the piggy bank. More demos like this please.
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  #8143
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🎧 10 years
Very very very nice, You’ll have mail soon Steve, as my X8 gets here in 3 weeks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Channelizer ➡️
The Low Frequency Expander now supports the Oberheim OB-X8. Beta firmware 3.7.0 and new manual are available in the usual place. For this to work you need to have either the All Synths Package or buy the extra synth upgrade for this. Then hold shift and restart the LFE for it to build the new patch files.

74 Destinations to modulate! Velocity -> Attack rate, 16-step sequencer x mod wheel -> noise level, aftertouch -> detune..........

The top-left knob controls Unison voice detune.

If you have the Option Pack you can use the 8 envelope knobs to control 8 of the Page 2 parameters. I've pre-installed a CC Set so that the following knobs are set up and ready to go... all you need to do is turn on Engage, select Panel mode for the envelope and start turning knobs:
Knob 1: Osc 1 level
Knob 2: Osc 2 level
Knob 3: Noise level
Knob 4: Filter key tracking amount
Knob 5: Osc 2 PW
Knob 6: X mod amount
Knob 7: Filter Type
Knob 8: Number of Unison voices

Destination Poly AT lets you control the synth's filter cutoff polyphonically via the synth's Aftertouch -> filter button, so you can have the LFE sending its sequencer, 6-stage envelope and complex LFOs per voice.
Old 3rd October 2022
  #8144
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The OB-X8 is now in the studio! Wow what a sound - Amazing. I am having an issue which I cannot figure out. If I use a patch that's a default from Oberheim that that is using the arpeggiator the hold feature works great: I hold a chord and then push the hold button let up on the chord and the arpeggiator patterns will continue. What's weird is that if I use a patch that does not have the arpeggiator already on by default the hold button will not hold a arpeggiator pattern at all of for that matter even the chord without the arpeggiator. I would love to be able to add an arpeggiator and have the hold button work which I cannot figure out.
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  #8145
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Originally Posted by Channelizer ➡️
No, I stopped making them a few months back. They come up occasionally on eBay/Reverb. I've done this update for myself and the 220 users, many of whom will have an OB-X8 now. I'm thinking of making another batch of 30 or so if there's enough interest - and crucially - if I can get hold of the chips!
I might be interested in one!

Also curious; IIUC, you stopped producing them as it became too time-consuming to provide support. Could you consider open-sourcing the hardware / design and firmware? (I know that's a big ask)
Old 3rd October 2022
  #8146
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For me, at this point, it's just, simply, this: I can get FAR more interesting range and timbrality and interest out of say, Kontakt 7 into Ozone 10 Standard, wi as much warmth, mellifluousness, control over timbre and texture as any musician could possibly want. The OBX8 is a wonderful thing in and of itself, as a thing, but it's certainly not a "necessity" for me. I'd enjoy it, but for $5k, there are lots of other things I'd enjoy, too -- a new laptop, iPhone, lots of different software, a top of the line current-tech TV... there's just a helluva lot you can do with that pile o' cash.

For me, at least, not being a complete analogue synth specialist for whom nothing else matters.... it's just. not. worth it.

At this point.

Someone throw $5k my way I don't feel like using on anything else, sure, but that's really not going to happen.

Besides, Sequential has a history of going from a great but expensive classic rebirth to a very reasonable "second take" (or Take 5....) on basically the same concept, but with a lot more modern features -- stereo outputs for both upper and lower parts, perhaps USB Audio, built-in digital and analog effects, a smaller case and keyboard, combined digital/analogue design that makes use of the best of both worlds, more continuous modulation through both filter types and waveforms (the Moog Voyager has an advantage over the OBX8 on the latter, for instance, as does the Moog One), all sorts of things. And a lot less "Page 2" and a lot more knobulation, and a bigger mod matrix.

All highly doable, even beyond the OB6, and for Take 5 pricepoint. I believe in Sequential, and am sure they can pull this off, with little real loss in Oberheiminess.

So, that's where I am now. It's a happy place, for me.
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  #8147
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For me, at this point, it's just, simply, this: I can get FAR more interesting range and timbrality and interest out of say, Kontakt 7 into Ozone 10 Standard, wi as much warmth, mellifluousness, control over timbre and texture as any musician could possibly want.
Then go play with your plugins. Honestly, why the need to post such stuff and clog up the thread? You simply sound like someone who cannot afford the OB-X8 and are trying to justify not liking it (out loud).
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  #8148
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🎧 10 years
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Originally Posted by Lazerbrains ➡️
Then go play with your plugins. Honestly, why the need to post such stuff and clog up the thread? You simply sound like someone who cannot afford the OB-X8 and are trying to justify not liking it (out loud).
it doesn’t do supersaws…
Old 4th October 2022 | Show parent
  #8149
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Then go play with your plugins. Honestly, why the need to post such stuff and clog up the thread? You simply sound like someone who cannot afford the OB-X8 and are trying to justify not liking it (out loud).
He says, after cheerfully wading thru pages and pages of Super 6 discussion on this read.

There’s a good reason you are on ignore. Unclogs the thread for me!
Old 4th October 2022
  #8150
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There’s a lot it doesn’t do. There’s a lot a Bechstein doesn’t do, either. Your point, if any? (doubtful)
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  #8151
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it doesn’t do supersaws…
OH NOES!
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  #8152
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OH NOES!
Yep, one of the many ugly things in this place that quickly reminds me it’s a real waste of my time. Thanks again!
Old 4th October 2022
  #8153
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I can relate. Most synths are a “don’t buy” for me — not so much because of the price but for the opportunity cost of talking up limited space. The OB-X8, otoh, is easily worth the money. I’d rather have a handful of the best sounding analog synths ever made than lots of cheaper or more “full featured” instruments.

I also like plugins, and that’s why I have little interest in digital or hybrid synths. It’s just so easy to get those sounds from software, and with far more features than we’ll ever see in hardware. So that leaves (mostly) analog hardware for me, and the OB-X8 delivers a quality of sound that we haven’t heard from an analog polysynth since the 80’s (with the obvious exception of the P5/10 and boutique labors of love like The River).

It’s true, I’m extremely pleased with the OB-X8. To folks who rationalize their way out of purchasing one I can only say I’m happy to be less than rational and think only with my ears when it comes to synth purchases. Every time I power up the OB-X8 I hear one of the best analog sounds that humans can devise. I’m happy not to second guess whether there’s a better sounding version of it that I could have had in my studio if only I’d gone with my gut instinct instead of letting money and logic get in the way.

The OB-X8 is simply a wonderful experience and I do hope Sequential can replicate it in a less expensive form so more people can enjoy it.
Old 4th October 2022
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I got hit with roughly $7,000 worth of damage from the hurricane last week, it's not covered by insurance (hurricane minimum deductible is too high), it all has to be repaired, so my end of year idea of buying one of these is now on hold.
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I got hit with roughly $7,000 worth of damage from the hurricane last week, it's not covered by insurance (hurricane minimum deductible is too high), it all has to be repaired, so my end of year idea of buying one of these is now on hold.
So sorry to hear that! I hope you, your family and friends made it through that brutal storm otherwise unharmed.

If it’s any consolation, the OB-X8 will likely be in production for years and deals on new and used ones should be easier to find next year.
Old 4th October 2022
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We're all with ya bcos of the devastation Ian caused, hastily wishing all the hope & support that only will bring swift recovery godspeed folks.
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it doesn’t do supersaws…
Anybody ever heard of V.A.S.T. ?! dude(s)




¡'All Hail Kurzweil!'¡'Long Live V.A.S.T. !' Thanx for your genius RayK.& HalC.
Old 4th October 2022
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Can we go back to appraisals, gotcha’s & User EXPERIENCES? (actual experiences, not people with an opinion, who won’t obtain one, writing a 2 paragraph strawman fallacy to justify their not buying decisions, while never even haven’t touched the unit)

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Old 4th October 2022
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Thanks for the kind words. Just sucks so much money needs to go to this...anyway...

SW has a demo on their site right now if anyone wants to grab it.
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  #8160
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Thanks for the kind words. Just sucks so much money needs to go to this...anyway...

SW has a demo on their site right now if anyone wants to grab it.
Sorry to hear that. I feel your pain, for sure. I’m formerly from earthquake country(LA), and the ‘94 Northridge Earthquake sent a good portion of my studio flying off my racks to the tune of around $11K in damage, which insurance didn’t cover.
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