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Old 10th July 2022 | Show parent
  #1111
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Originally Posted by Squeegee 303 ➡️
I experimented on my original JX-8P and I was not able to hear a big difference in sound between the “just” XMOD and SYNC plus XMOD settings. It isn’t a huge omission, in my opinion.
That is what I thought when I played around with the PG8X… but I did not want to comment on it as it is not the real thing and I don’t have experience with that kind of modulation
Old 3rd August 2022 | Show parent
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I just found this and will give it a try later today:
https://github.com/sagamusix/JDTools

when I got this right it seems to be a way to convert original JD 800 sysex patches to the JD-08 format (and even a lot more functions)

Whoever did this, thanks so much and I'm sure as hell donate!

edit: so far I was able to convert some sysex to the JD-08 svd format but I struggle with restoring it to the JD-08 (ends with "Err" on the display) following this process:
https://static.roland.com/manuals/jd.../17812038.html

edit2: I contacted the developer and hopefully the restore issue can be resolved.

edit3: We are already talking and I provided him with my original JD-08 backup file. Fingers crossed!
Old 3rd August 2022 | Show parent
  #1113
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A little update:

the developer is making progress and I did a couple of different tests for him, which were successfull. I really think it will not take too long and we can finally use JD 800 and even JD 990 patches and convert them for usage with the JD-08
Old 3rd August 2022 | Show parent
  #1114
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final update for today:

release 0.11 now works and I just converted a JD 800 patch bank Jexus once made

Release 0.11 of JDTools can be downloaded here (currently Windows command line only):
https://github.com/sagamusix/JDTools/releases/tag/v0.11

To make it work you NEED a backup file from your JD-08 which you can get by following these steps:
https://static.roland.com/manuals/jd.../17812183.html

Here is how it works:
  1. get the JD-08 backup file and copy it to a folder (e.g. on your desktop or downloads folder)
  2. get some JD 800 patch (sysex or midi format) and copy it to the same folder --> you can find a lot of them here: http://bobbyblues.recup.ch/roland_jd...0_patches.html
  3. download JDTools
  4. copy JDTools.exe to the same folder
  5. open a cmd prompt by clicking start / run / and enter "cmd" or windows key + r and enter "cmd" (without the "")
  6. change directory to the folder where all the files reside (you can copy the complete path from the address bar of windows explore and paste it to the cmd prompt after the "cd" parameter)
  7. the tool works the following (pasted from the github page):
    "By invoking JDTools convert svd <input.file> <JD08Backup.svd>, the input file is converted to the JD-08 patch bank format (SVD). The provided output file must be an already existing JD08Backup.svd file obtained from your JD-08. The file is then overwritten, but its contents are replaced with the new patch data. The output file should be named JD08Backup.svd so that the JD-08 can find it."
  8. which means you need to type and enter (without the ""):
    jdtools convert svd "name.extension of patch file" "JD08Backup.svd"
    when you press enter the actual conversion happens and you should see all converted patch names on the screen
  9. now all JD 800 patches have been merged into the JD08Backup.svd which can now be restored back to the JD 08
  10. restore the backup file by following these steps:
    https://static.roland.com/manuals/jd.../17812038.html

Please donate to support the developer for this incredible work! You can find the paypal donation link on the JDTools github page:
https://github.com/sagamusix/JDTools
Old 4th August 2022 | Show parent
  #1115
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Another Update:

The developer 'Saga Musix' created his own thread, which I did not see before, so any further discussion should go on there:
JDTools - Patch conversion utility for Roland JD-800 / JD-990 (and compatibles)
Old 4th August 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by kolutshan ➡️
To make it work you NEED a backup file from your JD-08 which you can get by following these steps:
https://static.roland.com/manuals/jd.../17812183.html
That's the same approach used by our fellow poster Mu:zines:
https://www.difficultaudio.com/roland
I.e. convert whole patch banks instead of using crippled or non-existent CC/SysEx MIDI implementation.

Let's just hope Roland does not ruin this great reverse engineering effort by releasing its own - SysEx based - editor/patch manager for the JD-08 and its Cloud sibblings.

E.g. the Jupiter-X or TR-xS editors.
Old 4th August 2022 | Show parent
  #1117
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poumtschak ➡️
That's the same approach used by our fellow poster Mu:zines:
https://www.difficultaudio.com/roland
I.e. convert whole patch banks instead of using crippled or non-existent CC/SysEx MIDI implementation.

Let's just hope Roland does not ruin this great reverse engineering effort by releasing its own - SysEx based - editor/patch manager for the JD-08 and its Cloud sibblings.

E.g. the Jupiter-X or TR-xS editors.
I hope that too and I'm sure if Roland does it will involve money.... On the other hand the whole backup and restore process is kind of pain and I really struggle to understand what Roland was thinking
Old 7th August 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by thesrabbit ➡️
Hey there. Decades long lurker, first time poster here. Has anyone had trouble with the envelope sliders on the JD-08? On mine the values jump all over the place, especially if you move them quickly. Sometimes after you let go of the slider the value slowly drops down to the previous value. No the slider is not moving by itself. I can get around it by using the larger sliders on the left, but I feel like my unit is defective. I bought it from a private seller on reverb a few months ago so there’s no way to return it. I’m just now getting around to trying to build patches on my own. The envelopes hurt my brain a bit. The pitch env seems to not use all the stages, unlike the alpha Juno that I have which has the same number of stages, all of which apply to pitch, amp, and filter. I thought these would be the same, but I guess not. Better rtfm I guess. Anyway, values jumping all over the place certainly don’t make things any easier.
Just thought I’d post an update on this. After a couple weeks of repeated requests and no response from Roland, I finally got a response from support and after a few messages back and forth, along with a video demonstrating the problem, they told me to send it in for service. I’m not sure what the problem was, as it wasn’t disclosed anywhere. But they promptly fixed it and sent it back with a pretty nice gig bag for my trouble. It’s actually big enough for my Modal Argon8, so that was a really nice gesture. The sliders do feel a little stiffer now, but at least everything works perfectly. Hopefully the problem doesn’t come back in the future.
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