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Roland SP-404 MKII

Bigger, better, faster, stronger.

The SP-404MKII has everything people love about its predecessor—with some serious upgrades like 17 ultra-expressive pads and updated knobs for smooth, hands-on control. And beatmaking is even quicker with speedy boot time, swift project loading and sample import, and easy project access via 16 GB of internal storage. Longtime users and new beatmakers alike will feel right at home with the intuitive layout and classic SP effects, plus a revamped sampling and sequencing workflow, Skip Back Sampling for quick performance capture, DJ mode to mix beats live, and more.

Guerilla beatmaking.

People who make music with SP samplers love the rapid workflow, portability, and tactile approach they offer. The SP-404MKII takes this experience even further, retaining the lightweight-yet-rugged design while adding features that make it even easier to create in any scenario. Bang out beats anywhere with AA or mobile battery power, capture audio from or stream direct to your mobile device via USB, or collaborate with a partner using the dual headphones outputs and mic/guitar input.

A sampler with soul.

With the SP404MKII’s vivid OLED screen and zoomable waveform view, sample editing is smooth like butter. Chop up samples by tapping out edit points in real time, or use auto chop to slice samples automatically. Then finesse them with envelope and pitch shift, and use the new resampling workflow to re-record patterns and effects layers for detailed sound design. And with Skip Back Sampling, you can instantly grab those golden moments by capturing up to 25 seconds of audio from your last performance.

All about effects.

Process, flip, and twist your sounds with legendary SP effects and a selection of new classics. SP staples like Vinyl Simulator and DJFX Looper are now joined with powerful additions that include Lo-fi, Cassette Simulator, and Resonator. Layer and route multiple simultaneous bus effects for intricate sound textures, or plug into the mic/guitar input and jam with ready-to-go Vocoder, Auto Pitch, and Guitar Amp Simulator effects.

Performance-tuned sequencing.

The SP-404MKII gives you the flexibility to create patterns with unique feel and energy. There’s adjustable input quantize and shuffle for custom swing, Pad Link for firing off multiple samples with a single tap, a Roll button for variable note repeat, and BPM-per-bank for instant tempo changes. It’s also possible to organize patterns for different sets and chain them together to automate playback. With your hands freed up, you can stretch out on the SP effects controls or let rip on your favorite synth.

Sound stash.

Dive into beatmaking with the pre-loaded sounds in the SP-404MKII’s blazing-fast 16 GB of internal memory. There’s a huge collection of curated samples to choose from and plenty of room to augment them with your private sound stash. And you can now load even more sounds at once, with 160 samples across each project for expanded performance and beatmaking combinations.

Break beats. Not banks.

You shouldn’t need to take out a bank loan to make beats or produce tracks. The SP-404MKII is more powerful and more affordable than ever, making it easy to add its rapid workflow and characteristic sound to your existing setup. And with all it can do, the SP-404MKII may be the only piece you need for production and performance.

Customize it.

You work hard to be a unique artist—so why play on cookie-cutter gear that looks like everyone else’s? Personalize your SP-404MKII with your own style or branding for a look that’s as distinctive as your sound. Grab the faceplate template to create custom overlays, style your startup screen with personalized logos, or select a screensaver that matches your vibe.

More details:

https://www.samash.com/rsp404mk2

Edit: Dead link now. I copied the details and pic from the link.
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It looks like a proper upgrade to me!
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Hehe the thumbnail image you attached looks like my scientific calc from high school

Never seen nor used a 404 , how odd

I've absolutely no idea about them, now I'm curious
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Finally a new version.... with Skip Back Sampling too

Looking for scatter thought
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This is what AKAI should have released instead of that pityful "MPC Studio MKII" release a cheap standalone sampler with a sequencer, AND without the bugs found on the MPX8 and MPX16. Make it $400, best seller. Of course AKAI decided to just do a quick gash grab, as long as enough "influencers" promote it, it will sell...



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Originally Posted by Jamie munro ➡️
Hehe the thumbnail image you attached looks like my scientific calc from high school

Never seen nor used a 404 , how odd

I've absolutely no idea about them, now I'm curious
It's fun to use but Roland has been selling the same device for like 10 years without any meaningful improvement. So this is an interesting proposition. The plus are battery powered and sample time only limited by the size of the sd card and the infamous effects like vinyl sim.

I had a SP202 and a Zoom Sample Trak 20 years ago. the Zoom device did things the SP404 still DOES NOT DO today. Unfortunately the SP line became more popular cause Zoom doesn't know how to do eye candy design, or tries something in theory all powerful but full of bugs (Zoom Arq, let it be known that the Arq 48/96 can be USB powered and the Arq 96 has an Ableton Live still clip launcher, with timestretching AND pitchshifting with up to 10 voices of polyphony... but it also has a LOT OF problems...).
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Originally Posted by camus2 ➡️
This is what AKAI should have released instead of that pityful "MPC Studio MKII" release a cheap standalone sampler with a sequencer, AND without the bugs found on the MPX8 and MPX16. Make it $400, best seller. Of course AKAI decided to just do a quick gash grab, as long as enough "influencers" promote it, it will sell...




It's fun to use but Roland has been selling the same device for like 10 years without any meaningful improvement. So this is an interesting proposition. The plus are battery powered and sample time only limited by the size of the sd card and the infamous effects like vinyl sim.
the 404 mk2 cost $600, comparing it to a midi controller is I dunno

what's your take for the bang of buck you get with the mpc one?
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the 404 mk2 cost $600, comparing it to a midi controller is I dunno
edit: it's likely more $500 than $600


OK, it's more expensive than I thought.

At $600, I don't know, might as well get a used Toraiz SP16.

I wouldn't even call the MPC Studio MKII a generic Midi controller though and this is an issue. It cannot function like a MPD outside MPC Software the DAW, for instane, changing pad banks won't work like a regular MPD controller, which is a terrible omission.

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Originally Posted by Captain 8 ➡️
what's your take for the bang of buck you get with the mpc one?
The MPC One is a powerful device. However

- it's full of bugs, some that will brick your hardware, and AKAI isn't fixing them

- it doesn't do disk streaming for now.

So I have one. I still recommend it for the price, but AKAI need to fix the bugs instead of adding functions.
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Leaked early? That Sam Ash link is dead already.

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Originally Posted by Jamie munro ➡️
Never seen nor used a 404 , how odd

I've absolutely no idea about them, now I'm curious
It's marketed to DJs and others who want to sample during live performance. It's not a groovebox with MIDI sequencing. The original SP404 came out about 15 years ago, since then there's been a few respins...the 404X and 404A.

The most unusual feature is sample length is limited only by card size. The samples are streamed off the card, they do not get loaded into RAM first like most samplers. If you want an hour long ambient drone to run as a one shot, go for it, you just need 5GB of space on your card for the sample.
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Anyone got the specs?
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Originally Posted by camus2 ➡️
edit: it's likely more $500 than $600


OK, it's more expensive than I thought.

At $600, I don't know, might as well get a used Toraiz SP16.

I wouldn't even call the MPC Studio MKII a generic Midi controller though and this is an issue. It cannot function like a MPD outside MPC Software the DAW, for instane, changing pad banks won't work like a regular MPD controller, which is a terrible omission.



The MPC One is a powerful device. However

- it's full of bugs, some that will brick your hardware, and AKAI isn't fixing them

- it doesn't do disk streaming for now.

So I have one. I still recommend it for the price, but AKAI need to fix the bugs instead of adding functions.
I have an mpc one as well, I haven't had any issues with it, but I'm definitely all for Akai squashing any outstanding bugs... the mpc controllers don't interest me but there is another side to that story.. the controller might not work as a standard controller, but Akai is still offering that free software aren't they, does the controller work with that if so I'd say that is pretty generous.

I only use my units stand alone so I don't have any of their software on my computer but I don't know anybody else as generous offering anything close to that software for free, if that new controller works well with that software then for some (not me) it sounds like a good deal

what I wish is that Roland had made this new 404 44.1 instead of 48, because if it ends up being class compliant it still won't be able to be ran via usb with the MPCs and that would have been nice.
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I was just considering a SP404 too for a new project I wanted to work on. Would be great if this was coming out soon....
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I presume they're aiming to make this available for the holiday season, but who knows these days.
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Anyone got the specs?
Someone on Elektornauts took some screens:

https://www.elektronauts.com/t/rolan...-mk2/161021/30
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The MPCs are quite cerebral. I mean, they have very decent user interfaces, but you think a lot when using it, there's a lot of visual information that you have to consciously process. I've never used a 404 but it seems a bit more for the fingers, more lizard brain than neocortex.

(To be clear, I think both of those are perfectly valid; I do like the look of this unit and have an MPC Live that I'm quite fond of.)
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looks like this was leaked by a 3rd party back in August:

https://sp-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=27105
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I presume they're aiming to make his available for the holiday season, but who knows these days.
Someone on Elektornauts took some screens:

https://www.elektronauts.com/t/rolan...-mk2/161021/30
That looks quite impressive. If it does indeed feature 32 voice polyphony, it's a massive step forward.
I'm curious to know more about the effects, though.
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looks great for SP users. Personally, I think they need to do a proper MV update. I'd sell my Force and MC 707 in a heartbeat if they dropped a serious MV successor (NO, the MV-1 doesn't count) with a complete Zencore soundset (ideally more Fantom than 707, to be sure, with access to the SN and SRX expansions).

Granted, I'd probably do the same once they drop the inevitable Fantom-A or whatever they call it. I'm guessing they'll walk in step with the MODX and Nautilus in dropping a "lite" board that largely retains the full features of the guts of the flagship.

But I digress.
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Hmmm. Digitakt or 404…
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I have the original SP404, and I love it. But if I had the Mark2, that’s a wicked tag team! $500 is a fair enough price, because if it’s any higher, then they compete with the Akai MPC One for features.

But trying to hear a audio/video of it isn’t available. So we’re getting teased so far.
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I'm looking forward to what Ricky Tinez and some other YouTubers do with it.
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Hmmm. Digitakt or 404…
well, Digitakt if you like brain surgery. 404 if you like making music. I'm kidding of course, but this is how I view them.
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Hmmm. Digitakt or 404…
This isn't even a competition here, not sure what you are hesitating for.

The strength of the Digitakt is its sequencer. A quick look at the 404 manual will reveal to you how poor its sequencer is, there is only one mode, realtime recording, and of course, no parameter locks, no automation, no trig conditions, probabilities and only a single track.

Might have changed with the MKII but not by much.
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Roland updating as usual… with nutty prices! If it doesn’t sound like the olds it will make rise their prices even more looool

Ok… what will be the perfect pad controller to compete with this? I ask due koala sampler has more to offer than mk1 and any missing part of the workflow could be done with other apps like GTL or koala fx or… but formfactor controller has its value. Any suggestion? Think class compliant devices (so avoid Maschines)
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I opened a post at Maschine forum and collected all the pics there (easier than here, sorry)
https://www.native-instruments.com/f...2-leak.461037/
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Finally Midi-out too:
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Seems a mix between sp404 and sp555.

Formfactor I prefer the last but I like it’s smaller than Toraiz (lol)
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Finally Midi-out too:
And it uses 1/4" instead of RCA!

One of the things I hate about my OG 404 is having to use adapters or TS-RCA cables. Sampling into the 404 from vinyl for the FX (and often converting to summed mono which my 2000XL can't do), then sampling into the MPC for proper slicing and sequencing, and moving the 404 to the MPCs outputs for more FX is a real hassle of cable juggling and wobbly RCAs. The smart thing would be to have two 404s... maybe I'll end up with this new one at some point.

But the 1/4" jacks would make all that swapping much more palatable, so selling my old one for a new one is a real possibility. Depending on how nice the Vinyl Sim is.

That's one of the main issues with the newer 404s to me, compared to the 303 and the original 404 which have "that" Vinyl Sim Compressor sound, compared to the SX and A versions where it's different, I think they split off the Vinyl Sim from the Compression.

There's always Vulf Compressor which doesn't sound quite the same but it can get close and is very versatile.



I also wonder about the pads. The 404 pads are 'squishy clunky' buttons like on a TV remote control and I've never found them to be comfortably or consistently playable. Huge respect to all the guys that play the hell out of them. But these pictures look like they might have changed them to the standard style of MPC and controller type pads.
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A little surprised not more people are skeptical of this.

The picture looks more like a photoshop job than an actual photograph to me, especially around the edges of the screen; plus, there’s no reflection on the screen.

And the idea that some random guy who’s accidentally leaking a mock-up of a future product also happens to have the full, finished marketing copy with all the details and big adjectives is a little hard to believe.

Also, many of these features seem too good to be true.

Anyway, I’m going to wait for an “official official” announcement before I get excited.
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It mentions an app in the spec list

*SP-404MK2 APP supports WAV, AIFF, MP3, FLAC, M4A.
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Originally Posted by invisible_agent ➡️
A little surprised not more people are skeptical of this.

The picture looks more like a photoshop job than an actual photograph to me, especially around the edges of the screen; plus, there’s no reflection on the screen.

And the idea that some random guy who’s accidentally leaking a mock-up of a future product also happens to have the full, finished marketing copy with all the details and big adjectives is a little hard to believe.

Also, many of these features seem too good to be true.

Anyway, I’m going to wait for an “official official” announcement before I get excited.
What would be the point of such a bland hoax?
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