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The only must have for my drum machine is the ability to finger bang. There is nothing like hitting the skins, but the machines can be almost as gratifying.
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Is this the post like it's 1988 thread?
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🎧 5 years
Loving my Tempest.
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I personally love drum machines, but as I've said at various times around here, use what inspires you and toss out the rest.
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Originally Posted by Tocsin ➡️
The only must have ..is the ability to finger bang.
If this site hadn't changed its' name this comment would have been the top post.
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Rhythm Wolf FTW!
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🎧 5 years


Come listen to the sound of MCA
I'm not a DJ but I've got some records to play
I'm the techno wizard of shay town
And the tenor of my voice is a trademarked sound
Now the beat pounds on, the sound's real strong
And I could probably keep rappin 'til the break of dawn
And while the drum machine plays on and on
And it doesn't stop playin' 'til the world is gone

Now Burzootie's on the mix most of the time
He works all the machines but he doesn't really rhyme
Moves slides, fader, programs, drum beats
Plays his records in the place to be
So when you hear that sound of the drum machine
It's MCA and Burzootie we're a musical team

When time began people played the drums
They did for money and they did for fun
They did it for sex and they did it for fame
All kinds of music where the beat's the same
Now there's a thing called the drum machine
You don't need good rhythm to sound real mean
Quantize a beat through the tempo control
To make good music the inevitable goal
With a VCO and a VCA
You might add on some digital delay in the mix
Use tricks
And if it don't sound good it can still be fixed


Attenuate the sound as it comes in
The meter's in the red or it may sound thin
Flange overdrive, distortion guitar
Turn the sound up loud so the sound sounds hard
Lexicon, Space Station, AMS
Delayed loop systems that sound the best
Pitch the tone, synthesizer, increase the noise
Turnin' small dials on electronic toys
They're like simulators, get your dope generators
With the MIDI on the system, the great penetrators

With the DMX, replace the chip
In order to bust with a Simmons kick
You can burn your own chip with your personal sound
That'll make the hard rock b boys wanna get down
Electronic machines that make electric boogie funk
B boys get loose when the drum beats go like this

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  #69
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Originally Posted by chaocrator ➡️
did not have them — however, my favorite drum unit is another Roland machine.




luckily, these days we have a great choice of pad controllers.
i myself switched mostly to finger drumming because of my obsession with dancefloor-oriented styles of music, and i feel OK with that — trading „proper“ drum kit for backpack-sized portability seems fair to me.
Since it’s roughly on-topic, can you say a little more about how you use the Handsonic? When I was into learning actual hand drums, I never paid much attention to it, but I assume it’s a cool creative tool in its own right.
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  #70
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🎧 5 years
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Originally Posted by ibtl ➡️
i love drum machines. probably more than i should. it might be some kind of tick.
Same here, have ongoing addiction with them....
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🎧 10 years
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Originally Posted by 12BITZAUDIO ➡️
If this site hadn't changed its' name this comment would have been the top post.
This site may have changed it domain but slutz life matter
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  #72
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Originally Posted by namnibor ➡️
Loving my Tempest.
Even my luddite~ass must concur. A true beauty!
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  #73
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🎧 15 years
I was over drum machines too.... until I got my hands on a pulsar 23. That thing is heaven sent.
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🎧 10 years
I go through periods where I’m really into my RYTM, and periods where I can’t be bothered. I’m really into guitar right now, so I’m leaving everything up to JamStix.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ibtl ➡️


Come listen to the sound of MCA
I'm not a DJ but I've got some records to play
I'm the techno wizard of shay town
And the tenor of my voice is a trademarked sound
Now the beat pounds on, the sound's real strong
And I could probably keep rappin 'til the break of dawn
And while the drum machine plays on and on
And it doesn't stop playin' 'til the world is gone

Now Burzootie's on the mix most of the time
He works all the machines but he doesn't really rhyme
Moves slides, fader, programs, drum beats
Plays his records in the place to be
So when you hear that sound of the drum machine
It's MCA and Burzootie we're a musical team

When time began people played the drums
They did for money and they did for fun
They did it for sex and they did it for fame
All kinds of music where the beat's the same
Now there's a thing called the drum machine
You don't need good rhythm to sound real mean
Quantize a beat through the tempo control
To make good music the inevitable goal
With a VCO and a VCA
You might add on some digital delay in the mix
Use tricks
And if it don't sound good it can still be fixed


Attenuate the sound as it comes in
The meter's in the red or it may sound thin
Flange overdrive, distortion guitar
Turn the sound up loud so the sound sounds hard
Lexicon, Space Station, AMS
Delayed loop systems that sound the best
Pitch the tone, synthesizer, increase the noise
Turnin' small dials on electronic toys
They're like simulators, get your dope generators
With the MIDI on the system, the great penetrators

With the DMX, replace the chip
In order to bust with a Simmons kick
You can burn your own chip with your personal sound
That'll make the hard rock b boys wanna get down
Electronic machines that make electric boogie funk
B boys get loose when the drum beats go like this
Sigh, I still miss him so much. What he could do with a drum machine is why I still love them.
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Originally Posted by percussion boy ➡️
Since it’s roughly on-topic, can you say a little more about how you use the Handsonic? When I was into learning actual hand drums, I never paid much attention to it, but I assume it’s a cool creative tool in its own right.
well, under the hood HPD-15 has a ROMpler engine with 64-voice polyphony, and 5 tracks in total — 1 live-played drum track + 2 sequenced drum tracks + 2 sequenced instrumental tracks.

the quality of sounds is absolutely great. drum sounds are definitely the best among all my gear, but instrument section also has very nice stuff, like sampled 303 & 101.

internal sequencer is usable, but not very convenient and lacks some features like polymeter support.
so i don't care much about internal sequencer, just pairing HPD with some other groovebox (E2 or Circuit) and sequence those 4 tracks externally.

Circuit Tracks is about perfect to pair with HPD.

so i launch it all, play drum parts while not tweaking synth tracks, and tweak synth tracks while not playing drum parts )
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  #77
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Originally Posted by jiffybox ➡️
Sigh, I still miss him so much. What he could do with a drum machine is why I still love them.
My only real reason for going to New York a few years back was to pay respects at the park named after him. The book had some great stories about his early looping technique and his all around wizardry.
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🎧 15 years
I can’t get rid of my TR8s. It’s so easy to punch up a quick tom/hi hat/ride pattern..etc and record bars into the DAW while I mess with it. Adds a little something on top of the sampled drums I already sequenced and it’s a lot faster for me to dial in the sounds I want as well.
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🎧 5 years
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Originally Posted by chaocrator ➡️
did not have them — however, my favorite drum unit is another Roland machine.




luckily, these days we have a great choice of pad controllers.
i myself switched mostly to finger drumming because of my obsession with dancefloor-oriented styles of music, and i feel OK with that — trading „proper“ drum kit for backpack-sized portability seems fair to me.
More buttons and knobs than my HPD-20. Ribbon sliders? I wuz robbed!

My HPD is on a stand, w kick and hat pedals, facing the V-drum kit. Eyeballs to eyeballs.

"This town ain't big enuff for the both of us."

Drummer lays four on the floor. Thumber picks it up, adds a nuance.

Just about EVERYone can fingertap.

Oh yeah??! Well... watch THIS.

The duel is ON!

If not, I tell them they're competing for control of the DMX lighting string.

They don't realize that the single MIDI input on the Obey-70 means that all of both their hits have visual effect.

Away they go! Back n forth, energy levels spiralling up, up up... everyone else in the room picking up on that, sending their own additional energy back into the deliberate feedback loop.

Me... back in the CR... red button lit...fingertips steepled....


"Exxxxx cellent!"

;-)


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Originally Posted by JayTee4303 ➡️
More buttons and knobs than my HPD-20. Ribbon sliders? I wuz robbed!
and D-Beam!
and 15 pads (vs 13)

that's why i prefer HPD-15 over HPD-20.
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🎧 5 years
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Originally Posted by percussion boy ➡️
Since it’s roughly on-topic, can you say a little more about how you use the Handsonic? When I was into learning actual hand drums, I never paid much attention to it, but I assume it’s a cool creative tool in its own right.
Shortly before Christmas, around 2018, a friend and I discovered an HPD-20 at a local music store, hooked up to an amp, ready to play.

He's happily married, with kids, a good husband and father... but we got lost in there.

Holidays looming, I think his wife wanted him home, but his noisy phone went unanswered.

The sales clerks kept asking if we we're actually going to buy anything.

We didn't notice them either.

Clock said we were in there for three hours. I think the clocks lied. Couldn't have been more than 10 minutes.

Mine arrived from Sweetwater less than two weeks later. The store had sold out.
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🎧 5 years
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Originally Posted by chaocrator ➡️
and D-Beam!
and 15 pads (vs 13)

that's why i prefer HPD-15 over HPD-20.
I has beamz.

(Still jealous!)

:-)
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🎧 5 years
I went through a phase where I was done with them because you can just use samples. However I found that I like to knock up a pattern without turning on the computer and all that, and play bass or guitar alongside.

Also sometimes I come up with interesting patterns I may not have if I'd have composed the beat in my daw.

I do like real drums, but have to make do with acoustic samples and/or EZdrummer for that!
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🎧 10 years
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Originally Posted by chaocrator ➡️
well, under the hood HPD-15 has a ROMpler engine with 64-voice polyphony, and 5 tracks in total — 1 live-played drum track + 2 sequenced drum tracks + 2 sequenced instrumental tracks.

the quality of sounds is absolutely great. drum sounds are definitely the best among all my gear, but instrument section also has very nice stuff, like sampled 303 & 101.

internal sequencer is usable, but not very convenient and lacks some features like polymeter support.
so i don't care much about internal sequencer, just pairing HPD with some other groovebox (E2 or Circuit) and sequence those 4 tracks externally.

Circuit Tracks is about perfect to pair with HPD.

so i launch it all, play drum parts while not tweaking synth tracks, and tweak synth tracks while not playing drum parts )
wow ... I didn’t realize it had the synth tracks, and 2 drum tracks. Sounds very useful for coming up with ideas spontaneously and then building up from there.

Thanks for the info.
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🎧 10 years
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Originally Posted by JayTee4303 ➡️
Shortly before Christmas, around 2018, a friend and I discovered an HPD-20 at a local music store, hooked up to an amp, ready to play.

He's happily married, with kids, a good husband and father... but we got lost in there.

Holidays looming, I think his wife wanted him home, but his noisy phone went unanswered.

The sales clerks kept asking if we we're actually going to buy anything.

We didn't notice them either.

Clock said we were in there for three hours. I think the clocks lied. Couldn't have been more than 10 minutes.

Mine arrived from Sweetwater less than two weeks later. The store had sold out.
Ah, the good old days. No COVID ... music stores.
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🎧 10 years
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Originally Posted by Jeroko ➡️
I have had a few drum machines over the years. I bought one recently. It sits unused.

I have finally realized that I don’t particularly like making music with drum machines. Others seem to do just fine but I get bored with them in short order and go back to my old fashioned techniques, live musicians and acoustic instruments.

At least I tried. Probably will sell this one but I might give it another go if I heard something that I like done with a drum machine that isn’t synth pop.
My first instrument was a trap set. I don't like programming drum machines - they have no life to them. I have an OG Linndrum that has sat lifeless since the 80's.

I do like setting up rhythmic events with eurorack though.
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🎧 5 years
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Originally Posted by percussion boy ➡️
Ah, the good old days. No COVID ... music stores.
Not that I'd let a mere pandemic... or nucular holocaust... get in the way of GAS...

...but Covid has helped me integrate, rather than aggregate.

It's kinda kewl.

Skynet has become self aware.

:-)
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  #88
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🎧 5 years
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Originally Posted by kcearl ➡️
Yeah I had a bsp mapped to it, might again...not as convienient as having it on the mpc like the sp16
Amen! If the MPC One had TR style buttons in addition to the pads, it would be perfect!
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Originally Posted by Doc Tonewheel ➡️
Amen! If the MPC One had TR style buttons in addition to the pads, it would be perfect!
Sometimes when I'm feeling crazy I slave my MPC Live to my TR-8 (it's like a TR8S but with extra steps (and better ))
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