Originally Posted by Deleted 8ace8bf ➡️

I think it's time to lock this unpleasant thread and move on with our lives.

Originally Posted by marcgood ➡️

What ever your opinion, voting with your dollars is the only power you can exercise here. If people snub this and it flops they'll not do it again. But if the TD-3 succeeds they'll focus efforts there. That's really the only thing a company like this will consider.

Originally Posted by pppch ➡️

may one ask about what you are a fanboy, and especially what that has to do with the topic?
You are accusing users as a fanboy, but you have to justify your own defamation. any brand of which you are a fan is in your opinion in existential need, is it kawai?
what.. no 303, terrible .. amazing that you have to plan the purchase of currently 89 euros (black friday @ thomann) .. it just doesn't matter.
4real do you write something in real life do something completely different .. also restaurant critic ?

Incidentally, this page from the thomann server is currently overloaded, did not work as you wanted it to be ..

https://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_td_3_bk.htm

Originally Posted by dgtunes ➡️

I find curious that people accept they clone machines of the past because it's useful for them, but cloning something they can acquire under same conditions is not acceptable, so people are corrupt, but under their conditions, "stealing" one cent or one million, it's "stealing", there is no grey areas and the law is specific on it.

Morality belongs to personal opinion under the culture they are practiced on, what is moral for me, might not be moral for you, but if you try to obliged me to accept yours and "****" on mine, what that make's you?

Behringer is a brand that clones machines and always had, they had come up with original products also, I am not Uli, I have no idea how their company works internally or I'm not a specialist either to condemn what they are doing, If what they are doing is illegal or wrong, then the law will take care of it.

If I chose to buy one of their products, it's my choice, and I hope people respect that as I respect yours for disagreeing with mine, two wrongs doesn't make a right, and it's sad to see so much rage just because they are doing something people disagree under a market that does the same over and over and over, personally I think they should put their resources to use to develop new and appealing products, as their clones on the synth world made some of the elitism on it to come down for example, but it's their choice, in the end there are families that are being fed by working on their factories, same as for all other companies, and the corporate world is a land of wolves.

Originally Posted by Perplexo ➡️

interested in your opinion, mate.

Originally Posted by Bignatius ➡️

One way to push back even if you use or like some Behringer gear is to make sure you never buy it New, never putting any money directly into @ uli 's hands.

Let him spend the money and effort to produce, let people get bored with it, scoop it up even cheaper, and never give @ Uli Behringer $ in the process.

He's served his purpose and did a few less repulsive things. Now just start squeezing any remaining value out of him and his company.

Then never mention his name again, ever.

Don't give him money, don't mention his name, and buy up used versions of his gear you may like and use it where no one sees or knows and he gets 0.

Tone deaf twotwaffle, he is.

Eat your cake and have it too.

This is the way.

Originally Posted by Somebodyperson ➡️

Something made so long ago that the patent has expired and has not been produced for decades VS something still being produced today.

Originally Posted by dgtunes ➡️

That's interesting, so the problem is not they are making clones, but the clone they chose to make and the conditions, so it's ok for Behringer to continue to make clones, just not the Arturia one?

Originally Posted by dgtunes ➡️

Then you should stop using a phone, computer, clothes, shoes, vehicles and all other peripherals currently on the market as they are all a copy of something else, you accept "corruption", but under your conditions, as we all.

So far the Swing under the established law is a product clone, if Arturia product is protected or not, the law will see to it.

Originally Posted by Somebodyperson ➡️

There is a difference between inspired by and being a fake Gucci product or Bucci product.

Originally Posted by Perplexo ➡️

Instead of wasting time on the handful of Behringer fanbois here, tell the company what you think about their ugly practices on their Facebook page.

Personally, I was planning on picking up a TD-3 and maybe some other clones, but I can't see that happening now.

Originally Posted by Somebodyperson ➡️

How much is this dude getting paid....dear lord.

Originally Posted by Deleted 60622ed ➡️

Ooooo $149..bankrupt

Originally Posted by dgtunes ➡️

That's interesting, so the problem is not they are making clones, but the clone they chose to make and the conditions, so it's ok for Behringer to continue to make clones, just not the Arturia one?

Originally Posted by Mutex ➡️

hmm, why did you remove the quotes I made!!

Getting paid by whom? Behringer or Arturia? Check my previous posts please before judging me too quickly.

Originally Posted by dgtunes ➡️

That's interesting, so the problem is not they are making clones, but the clone they chose to make and the conditions, so it's ok for Behringer to continue to make clones, just not the Arturia one?

Originally Posted by S_A_P ➡️

Jony Ive saw this and decided to make his first solo collaboration with Apple their version of the keystep. Jony was able to strip all the unnecessary controls and design elements out and went to make the thinnest midi controller in the world. It starts at 999 MRSP and includes both the T2 chip and the M1 Apple Silicon processor for fanless multicore midi control.