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Old 17th March 2020 | Show parent
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I wonder, what was this then?
Chromed Krome.

Meh!
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Chromed Krome.

Meh!
Probably something like that, at least price wise. The button layout is different though, which makes me think that synth wise it might be something new. Or maybe it’s an ultra affordable Kronos.
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Probably something like that, at least price wise. The button layout is different though, which makes me think that synth wise it might be something new. Or maybe it’s an ultra affordable Kronos.
Nope. It is a Krome Platinum

https://www.korg.com/jp/common/php/e...a223129d0c.png

Sorry, mate. Layout is probably fooling you due to bad pic and the plastic wrap up.
Old 17th March 2020
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Didn’t the Platinum Krome come long time ago? Way before Krome EX?
And the layout in this one is totally different, than any Krome.
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Didn’t the Platinum Krome come long time ago? Way before Krome EX?
And the layout is totally different, than any Krome.
If you think you can distinguish them through the bad pic and plastic, maybe. But there have been no suggestions that this is a new release and no reports from its stand at NAMM have confirmed that either.

New keyboard releases were Korg i3 and EK50L, which both appeals to arranger keyboards. And the Arp and Wavestate of course ;-)
Old 17th March 2020
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Here's the thing though; put those two photos side by side, and you find that the controls don't match up.


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We'll probably never know for sure. It'll be like Roswell, Area 51, or Canada: Just a myth that people tell stories about.
Old 17th March 2020
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Hey again @ Kraut . You are right, it is not a Krome. Just saw this vid where the Korg mate says it is just a concept-design of “something” in a distant future. Obviously he has no clue himself

Old 15th July 2020
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CCbNLD0h7TU/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCbNTseh2Je/

just a little graphic experiment to lay the NAUTILUS name on the rear of a new synth
Old 15th July 2020
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You devil you
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If that's a fold-up display on top, it's a pretty wide one at that!

Unless that's a 49 key mockup you got there.
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It's just a paintshopped Kronos pic
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It's just a paintshopped Kronos pic
Right, with that extra black horizontal thing on it. I figured the idea was a fold up display
Old 7th November 2020 | Show parent
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Didn’t the Platinum Krome come long time ago? Way before Krome EX?
And the layout in this one is totally different, than any Krome.
Well, here we are. My vote is that this is the Krome EX replacement, since it's pretty light on controllers.

https://www.emnordic.no/produkter/ta...us-61-workstat


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LENGTHY description, before the site page is probably taken down lol!

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NAUTILUS pushes the boundaries of what a performance synth and workstation is capable of. With the power of nine engines to drive a new approach to sounds, plentiful sampling, audio recording, effects, and processing power, there is simply no other synth that delivers more to explore sonically, with the workflow to get you there faster than ever. Korg spent years refining all our digital, analog, processing, and hardware technologies and delivering them in a way that helps the musician connect with their instrument. The result is the incredibly powerful, one-of-a-kind NAUTILUS.

- Nine different sound engines offer massive expressive power

- New sounds offered over three broad categories

- The DYNAMICS knob makes delicate expression possible

- Make intuitive changes to sounds with the Realtime knobs

- A user interface designed for easy operation

- Convenient arpeggiator and drum track functions

- Set list mode that demonstrates its power in live performances

- Open Sampling System

- 16-Track MIDI Sequencer / 16-Track Audio Recorder

- 16 Onboard Effect Processors

- USB/MIDI Host Ports Accommodate MIDI Control Surfaces

- Smooth sound transitions that eliminate dropouts when changing sounds, regardless of the mode you're in

- 88-key model with piano touch, 73-key model with light touch and 61-key model available

For Specifications, see downloads

Nine different sound engines offer massive expressive power


The NAUTILUS features nine dedicated sound engines to realistically reproduce sounds such as pianos, electric pianos, organs and more.

To start, the enhanced SGX-2 piano sound generator offers delicate expressiveness to capture all the nuances of the acoustic piano, and NAUTILUS features the most piano libraries ever put into one product; with 12-step velocity-switched sound, string resonance and more. The EP-1 electric piano sound generator realistically reproduces seven different famous electric piano sounds. The CX-3 engine – the heart of our sought-after CX-3 reissue -covers the distinct sound of classic tonewheel organs. Add to that MOD-7 VPM/FM synthesis, the PolysixEX and MS-20EX for analog modeling, and the STR-1 for physical modeling, and you have essentially an engine for any type of sound you’re looking to get. Used together in Program or Combination mode, these distinctive engines create completely new timbres.

New sounds offered over three broad categories

For additional info about Sound Engines, see downloads

The approach to the included sound on NAUTILUS, started with Korg setting aside our preconceptions of what sound should be like on a conventional music workstation, and instead focused on pushing the boundaries of sampling and programming to create a brand-new classifications of programs that we divide into three groups:

“Unique” sounds:

The NAUTILUS brings you distinctive sounds including phrase loops, prepared pianos, found percussion and more. Many seldom heard-of musical instruments found in different regions around the world can be difficult to play, but distinctive phrases played on these instruments are featured on the NAUTILUS. Use these phrases as-is in your songs—let your imagination be your guide. The NAUTILUS features sounds that were sampled for the first time just for this instrument, including prepared piano sounds created by placing different objects between piano strings and recording samples, or “found percussion” sounds made by turning ordinary items into instruments to be struck. Not only do these novel and mysterious sounds provide an unexpected flavor to your songs, they offer broad possibilities for sound effects used in film and TV music as well.

“Current” sounds:


The NAUTILUS also offers the freshest sounds that blend in well with today's music scene, including synths, drum kits, special effects and more. For synths, be sure to check out the EDM, electro and chiptune sounds for starters. Also, the NAUTILUS features more than 50 kinds of drum kits—sounds that most strongly reflect the changes in music over time. The special effect sounds offer useful material like drums added to dance music to create beats—sounds that you can put to use right away.

Standard sounds:

We’ve brought together all of the most important sounds a workstation needs including piano, electric piano, guitar, bass guitar and more, covering all genres. For the newly sampled piano sound, we’ve also recorded the lovely sonic ambience of the studio, and you can mix the piano and ambience sound as you like with the new ambience sound. A new electric piano model with a characteristic thick sound has been added, which works great for funky playing styles. We’ve also added many phrases that let you play back actual performances of guitar and bass parts that keyboardists will find useful.

The DYNAMICS knob makes delicate expression possible

With the DYNAMICS knob, you can instantly control the changes in volume and tone in response to how hard you play the keyboard (velocity); and you can customize this knob in real time to match the keyboard playing feel required for each style and song. Even when playing the same sound, you can turn this knob to get the feeling of playing a completely different sound. By finding just the right setting for your playing style, you'll uncover even more of the possibilities that the NAUTILUS offers.

When you activate the DYNAMICS knob and turn it to the left, the keyboard responds more softly to your playing, giving you a wide range of dynamics. This allows for delicate, expressive playing when accompanying a piano solo or vocals, which directly reflects the dynamics of your performance. On the other hand, turning the knob to the right gives a stronger, more flat dynamic response. This brings out the sound when you’re playing in a band or ensemble, which works best when performing with a more even feel.

Make intuitive changes to sounds with the Realtime knobs

The six RT (real-time) knobs at the top left of the panel give you direct control over changes to the PROG and COMBI sounds. A variety of functions are assigned to each knob that lets you enjoy making changes to sounds, such as the filter cutoff and effect depth, the gate time, tempo and swing of the arpeggiator or drum track, the type of snare drum and more. In COMBI mode, you can group timbres and control their levels with the knobs. Further, you can press these knobs into the panel to lock them in place, preventing them from being accidentally changed while you’re playing. For instance, you could use this to enable only the knobs you often use onstage and push the ones in that you do not need.

A user interface designed for easy operation


For the NAUTILUS, we have completely rethought the user interface, considering that panel controls tend to become denser as more functions are added. The interface of the NAUTILUS lets users find just the things they’re looking for once they understand the principles.

The MODE button lets you see what you’ve selected in each mode on a single screen, from PROG and COMBI to the set list, sampling, sequence and global modes. Each mode has tabs for each function, and the PAGE buttons offer more detailed editing with consistent operations. With the user-friendly navigation of the NAUTILUS, you can press the MODE button at any time to return to the start if you get lost. A dark mode is available for the display, using black as the primary color to reduce eye fatigue.

Six quick access buttons are also available as shortcut buttons. The NAUTILUS further offers four templates as a continuation of the previous user-friendly features, which can be used to select modes like PROG and COMBI, as transport buttons for sequencer playback and recording and so on. You can also select your own settings as you like. What’s more, you can freely assign functions you frequently use and save them in one of four sets.

Convenient arpeggiator and drum track functions


Four scenes of arpeggio patterns and drum track sets are made available that perfectly match each PROG and COMBI preset sound. These are useful for switching between scenes while they’re played, for use when improvising during performance, or for expanding your vision when composing music starting from a sound.

Set list mode that demonstrates its power in live performances

NAUTILUS can organize all of the resources you need to get through a song—or a set—using the Set List mode. Using the Set List mode, the TouchView display can host 16 color-coded touch-screen buttons; each one can instantly call up the appropriate Preset, Combination, or Sequence—regardless of mode!

You can also select different button colors, such as when you want to change the colors within a song while playing live. This is a powerful feature for situations that require quick and accurate control. The Set List mode even adds a nine-band graphic EQ, allowing the overall tone to be tweaked to match the venue.

Color TouchView Display


The nerve center of the NAUTILUS is KORG’s enormous eight-inch (800 x 480 pixel) WVGA color TouchView display.

In addition to simply selecting a sound or choosing a parameter with the touch of a finger, the enhanced Touch-Drag ability allows more detailed control of parameter values. Interactive instruments and panel graphics provide the ability to do everything from adjusting the lid of a grand piano to connecting patch cable on a semi-modular synthesizer model.

The TouchView display also hosts a convenient new Search Function, allowing you to search for (and preview) sounds based on their titles.

Open Sampling System


Using KORG’s Open Sampling System, NAUTILUS can quickly sample an external audio source, regardless of whether NAUTILUS is in the Program, Combination, or Sequencer modes. The Open Sampling Mode can even resample the performance of the NAUTILUS itself. The user sample bank, which extends the convenience of the EXs sample library to user samples, allows custom samples to be loaded and played, taking advantage of the gigantic SSD capacity.

AIFF, WAV, SoundFont 2.0, and AKAI S1000/3000 format samples can be loaded into memory via USB memory. Additionally, you can use a USB Ethernet adapter to exchange large amounts of sample data with your computer at high speed. Instruments or samples that you've previously created on your PC can be used to construct a music production setup based on just the NAUTILUS itself.

16-Track MIDI Sequencer / 16-Track Audio Recorder

NAUTILUS features a sequencer/recording section that offers both 16 MIDI tracks plus 16 audio tracks; a great resource for putting together a dazzling performance or a brilliant production. MIDI sequencing makes it easy to capture ideas, inspiration, and pro-quality phrases using the Drum Track, or RPPR (Realtime Pattern Play/Recording) functions.

The 16-track audio recorder simultaneously captures up to four tracks of 16-bit/24-bit uncompressed data at a sampling rate of 48 kHz. Play along with recorded tracks, add effects, and then resample the NAUTILUS itself and place the resampled WAV files directly in a track. When polishing your tracks, feel free to use mixer automation and editing functions such as copy, paste, and normalize to get the results you want.

16 Onboard Effect Processors


NATILUS provides 16 internal effects to add impact to your sonic creations. Each of the 12 Insert effects can be applied to individual or multiple timbres in a combination, or to individual or multiple tracks of the sequencer. In addition, two Master effects can be applied to sends 1/2, and two Total effects can be applied to all tracks at the final stage of the sound.

A separate three-band EQ is provided for every timbre, for every sequencer track, and for every audio track for adjusting subtle tonal balances or for creatively modifying the overall sound.

USB/MIDI Host Ports Accommodate MIDI Control Surfaces

Any class-compliant USB-MIDI controller can be connected directly to the NAUTILUS. Assign functions to a Korg USB MIDI controller with pads (nanoPAD, nanoPAD2, padKONTROL) to play drum parts, and switch between chords with chord triggers or when you’re in chord mode.

Smooth sound transitions that eliminate dropouts when changing sounds, regardless of the mode you're in

When you switch program sounds during a performance to get ready for the next section, or when you switch from Program mode to Combi mode, the sound that's currently being output is always given priority and its effects are maintained during the program change, ensuring a seamless transition with no dropouts. This function has also earned extremely high praise from pro musicians.

88-key model with piano touch, 73-key model with light touch and 61-key model available


The keyboard on the 88-key model of the NAUTILUS uses a four-stage real weighted hammer action made in Japan, called the RH-3. This action is heavier on the lower notes and lighter on the higher notes for superb playability. The 73-key model features a much-requested light-touch synth keyboard from C to C, as with the 61-key model. This key action lets you play organ parts with plenty of glissandos, as well as synth solos that take advantage of the keyboard’s wide range.

The 88-key model is fitted with luxurious wooden side panels, and the 73-key and 61-key models a completely new design with impressive curves that rise from the bottom of the unit to the sides, patterned after the NAUTILUS’ namesakes: the Nautilus submarine and the cephalopod mollusk. All of these elements make the NAUTILUS a distinctive instrument onstage as well, brimming with personality.

Free bundle of music software


The NAUTILUS comes with a diverse variety of music software from Izotope including “Ozone Elements” which lets you not only create songs but also master them using AI, “Skoove” which will help you improve your keyboard playing skills, “Reason Lite” DAW software, as well as software synths from KORG and other brands.

In other words, the moment you get your hands on this synthesizer you'll have a variety of tools to help you take your music to the next level.

Apps for iPad/iPhone


KORG Gadget 2 Le (music production studio DAW app)

KORG Module (piano/keyboard sound module app)

Software for Mac/Windows

KORG Collection - M1 Le (synthesizer sound module)

UVI Digital Synsations (synthesizer sound module)

AAS Ultra Analog Session (synthesizer sound module)

AAS Strum Session (acoustic guitar sound module)

AAS Lounge Lizard Session (electric piano sound module)

Reason Studios Reason Lite (DAW music production software)

Skoove free 3 month trial of Skoove Premium (online piano lesson)

KORG Gadget 2 Le for Mac (DAW music production software)

iZotope Ozone Elements (Audio Mastering Plug-in Software)



Dimensions: (W x D x H) 88 key: 1,437 x 387 x 139 mm / 56.57” x 15.24” x 5.47”, 73 key: 1,227 x 386 x 116 mm / 48.31” x 15.20” x 4.57”, 61 key: 1,062 x 386 x 116 mm / 41.81” x 15.20” x 4.57”

Weight: 88 key: 23.1 kg / 50.93 lbs. 73 key: 14.6 kg / 32.19 lbs. 61 key: 13.0 kg / 28.66 lbs.

Power Consumption: 40 W

Accessories: AC cord, Quick Start Guide

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== Hardware ==

XVP-20: Expression/Volume Pedal, EXP-2: Foot Controller, DS-1H: Damper Pedal
Old 7th November 2020 | Show parent
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That 73 key version is weird. 6 Octaves. But not starting with E?! Very unusual to look at. What would I use as C1?^^
Old 7th November 2020
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Looks like this is pretty much copied from the Kronos specs. The polyphony section even says so lol.

Specs:

System:KRONOS System Version 3.0

Keyboard: 88key: RH3 (Real Weighted Hammer Action 3)A -C
73 key: Natural Touch Semi Weighted, C -C
61 key: Natural Touch Semi Weighted, C –C
Velocity sensitive is supported, after touch is not supported.

Synthesis Types:
9SGX-2 Premium Piano (Acoustic Piano)
EP-1 MDS Electric Piano (Electric Piano)
HD-1 High Definition Synthesizer (PCM)
AL-1 Analog Synthesizer (Analog Modeling)
CX-3 Tonewheel Organ (Tonewheel Organ Modeling)
STR-1 Plucked String (Physical Modeling)
MOD-7 Waveshaping VPM Synthesizer (VPM Synthesis)
MS-20EX Component Modeling Technology (Analog Modeling)
PolysixEX Component Modeling Technology (CMT Analog Modeling)

Maximum Polyphony *1*2:
SGX-2: 100 voices*3
EP-1: 104 voices
HD-1: 140 voices
AL-1: 80 voices
CX-3: 200 voices
STR-1: 40 voices
MOD-7: 52 voices
MS-20EX: 40 voices
PolysixEX: 180 voices

1: In rare cases, when a large number of processor-intensive effects are active simultaneously (for instance, more than 14 O-Verbs), polyphony may be slightly reduced.*2: A portion of the multicore processor in KRONOS is devoted to generating voices, and aseparateportion is devoted to generating effects. KRONOS dynamically allocates the voiceprocessingpower between the engines as necessary. The quoted maximum numbers of voicesapply when 100% of thevoice processing power is devoted to a single engine.*3: 100 dual-stereo notes (equivalent to 400 mono voices)[/quote]

Preset PCM: 496MB / DISK 2.3G (ROM 1,771 Multisamples, 3,955 Drumsamples)

Build-in Expansion PCM Libraries:
EXs301: German2 D Piano
EXs302: Italian F Piano
EXs303: Japanese Upright U Piano
EXs304: Prepared Piano
EXs305: Historical Keyboards
EXs306: Vintage Keyboards 2
EXs307: Strings & Synths
EXs308: Guitar Collection
EXs309: Bass Collection
EXs310: World Essence
EXs311: Background Loops
EXs312: SFX & Hits
EXs313: Found Percussions
EXs314: Expansion Drums

PCM RAM Capacity:Approx. 2GB *4

*4: The memory available for Sampling Mode will change based on the use of Expansion PCM libraries and User Sample Banks. Approx. 760 MB is available when shipped from the factory (When loading the file named “PRELOAD.KSC”).Wave Sequences: 598 User memory, 377 Preload

Support for stereo multisamples, synchronization of individual notes, and tempo-based settings.
Old 7th November 2020
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So is this a budget Kronos (Kromos?), or is it a full featured replacement? From the description it sounds like it expands on the Kronos idea, but the control surface looks scaled down.
Old 7th November 2020
  #260
Presuming the currency on the site is Swedish Krona, it puts the 88 at USD 3667.33. Which is Kronos-land. But where are the controllers??
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I don't know... if this is to replace the current Kronos, that would look a lot like Korg is throwing in the towel on advancing the workstation. Curious if there is something else behind curtain number 3.
Old 7th November 2020
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Ha, what do you know...ALL the links are now dead - Nautilus 61/73/88 *and* the opsix (posted in the opsix thread). Figures. That's exactly why I copied all the good stuff over here already. I also have the spec sheet and nine sound engines document from the downloads section for the Nautilus. There were no downloads for the opsix.
Old 7th November 2020
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Are the hardware specs at least better than the Kronos? Is the UI more ergonomic? Did the sequencer improve? Why bundle hobbyist software with this ?
Old 7th November 2020
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So even a new flagship synth is crippled with no aftertouch. I have lost faith in korg recently. They seem to make great synths which they then cripple by making them without aftertouch or worse, 37 keys and no aftertouch. I was really looking forward to their new stuff too, but wavestate, 37keys. Boo. Opsix, 37 keys. Boo. This, yes it's full size but no aftertouch. Boo.
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So even a new flagship synth is crippled with no aftertouch. I have lost faith in korg recently. They seem to make great synths which they then cripple by making them without aftertouch or worse, 37 keys and no aftertouch. I was really looking forward to their new stuff too, but wavestate, 37keys. Boo. Opsix, 37 keys. Boo. This, yes it's full size but no aftertouch. Boo.
Nautilus is not a flagship, is just a cheaper Kronos

I think is too early to see a real Kronos successor
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That 73 key version is weird. 6 Octaves. But not starting with E?! Very unusual to look at. What would I use as C1?^^
I highly prefer Korg’s 73 keys to other brands’ 76 like on Yamaha, Roland and Kurzweil.
Those 73 take less space and, above all, look nicer.
Old 7th November 2020
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Korg do have great keybeds. I love my Vox to death. But ... cephalopod mollusk?
And where are those 25GB mentioned before?
If those would have been available for user sampling, then!
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Originally Posted by matt pinchin ➡️
So even a new flagship synth is crippled with no aftertouch. I have lost faith in korg recently. They seem to make great synths which they then cripple by making them without aftertouch or worse, 37 keys and no aftertouch. I was really looking forward to their new stuff too, but wavestate, 37keys. Boo. Opsix, 37 keys. Boo. This, yes it's full size but no aftertouch. Boo.
For me also, No Aftertouch= No Go.
But Korg is unfortunately not alone: Roland and Yamaha tend to do that.
As if AT was a feature for “high-end” only...
When it’s on even cheap midi controllers costing 5 times less...
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Just woke up. No coffee yet. Looks like they dropped wave sequencing, the slider bank, vector synthesis, the ribbon controller, aftertouch, KARMA...

Added a programmable arp, some expansion libraries as standard, a new EP engine supposedly, 1" diagonal to the screen, a knob for velocity curve....

The only question is, should I buy a second Kronos, and use my current one for parts? Or should I trust that I can fix any problems that arise with my current one?

The Nautilus is clearly a downgrade from Kronos, for almost the same price.

Instead of working to give each of the 10 velocity curves more dynamic sensitivity, they've added a knob with more curves. What they should have done instead: allowed programs and combis to override the global velocity setting. Then, the curve would change to how you prefer it with each new sound. More curves, sure, but no need to waste a knob. Okay, a knob saves you a button push, 2 screen presses, and a button push to get back where you were. Big whoop. There are too few knobs already, and many other features that I'd rather assign this one to.

The 'mode' button. Uh, they still have individual buttons to cycle through each mode. The only time I'd use the 'mode' button is if, say, the Combi button stopped working, the mode button would be a backup way to get there. But, you could always backdoor through the setlist, for example, if that extremely rare (never heard of it happening) button failure occurred in some critical moment. I like redundancy, and the Kronos has much of it, but it's borderline silly to tout this button as a big feature.

They're talking about an easier to use UI, but the description sounds almost identical to the Kronos UI: different modes, with pages (tabs) and popups under each mode. Sampling seems like it might be slightly simpler, but I'd have to see the deets. That might be improved. The other stuff... You could already lower or raise the "piano lid", and plug in virtual patch cables, and so on. They probably pasted that part straight from Kronos docs.

This is disappointing. I lowered my expectations, so I wouldn't be disappointed, but I guess I didn't lower them far enough. They still tout the included clonewheel organ (rightfully so), but they took away the drawbars? Maybe we won't notice?

I was expecting a simplified Wave Sequencing 2.0, but instead we get 0.0? One more reason they should make a Wavestate module, but they reiterated that they won't, and that's a lot more to have to spend, to add some wave sequencing. I was hoping Nautilus would cover at least some of that.

Had my coffee now. No aftertouch? Is that true? There's no way this could be considered a Kronos successor, by any but the most casual observer. Maybe it's supposed to replace Krome, but then it should have a piano roll for the sequencer, and no piano roll is mentioned. That's, like, the one reason you'd consider buying Krome over their other offerings. Jeez louise, it's planting a flag in no-man's-land.
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Originally Posted by PuggaMahone ➡️
Just woke up. No coffee yet. Looks like they dropped wave sequencing, the slider bank, vector synthesis, the ribbon controller, aftertouch, KARMA...

Added a programmable arp, some expansion libraries as standard, a new EP engine supposedly, 1" diagonal to the screen, a knob for velocity curve....

The only question is, should I buy a second Kronos, and use my current one for parts? Or should I trust that I can fix any problems that arise with my current one?

The Nautilus is clearly a downgrade from Kronos, for almost the same price.

Instead of working to give each of the 10 velocity curves more dynamic sensitivity, they've added a knob with more curves. What they should have done instead: allowed programs and combis to override the global velocity setting. Then, the curve would change to how you prefer it with each new sound. More curves, sure, but no need to waste a knob. Okay, a knob saves you a button push, 2 screen presses, and a button push to get back where you were. Big whoop. There are too few knobs already, and many other features that I'd rather assign this one to.

The 'mode' button. Uh, they still have individual buttons to cycle through each mode. The only time I'd use the 'mode' button is if, say, the Combi button stopped working, the mode button would be a backup way to get there. But, you could always backdoor through the setlist, for example, if that extremely rare (never heard of it happening) button failure occurred in some critical moment. I like redundancy, and the Kronos has much of it, but it's borderline silly to tout this button as a big feature.

They're talking about an easier to use UI, but the description sounds almost identical to the Kronos UI: different modes, with pages (tabs) and popups under each mode. Sampling seems like it might be slightly simpler, but I'd have to see the deets. That might be improved. The other stuff... You could already lower or raise the "piano lid", and plug in virtual patch cables, and so on. They probably pasted that part straight from Kronos docs.

This is disappointing. I lowered my expectations, so I wouldn't be disappointed, but I guess I didn't lower them far enough. They still tout the included clonewheel organ (rightfully so), but they took away the drawbars? Maybe we won't notice?

I was expecting a simplified Wave Sequencing 2.0, but instead we get 0.0? One more reason they should make a Wavestate module, but they reiterated that they won't, and that's a lot more to have to spend, to add some wave sequencing. I was hoping Nautilus would cover at least some of that.

Had my coffee now. No aftertouch? Is that true? There's no way this could be considered a Kronos successor, by any but the most casual observer. Maybe it's supposed to replace Krome, but then it should have a piano roll for the sequencer, and no piano roll is mentioned. That's, like, the one reason you'd consider buying Krome over their other offerings. Jeez louise, it's planting a flag in no-man's-land.
Yes it is early to make such pronouncements but if they had just copy and pasted the Kronos with better specs it would be better than chopping away things that made the Kronos good, seemingly by committee, and to enhance margin on hardware, but not make any improvements.

I hope I am wrong about that. A more expensive krome is not really satisfying the pro market no matter how many synth engines you claim it has. It has to be better than other workstations, you cannot succeed in that space by competing on price.

But maybe they are just giving up.
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