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Old 4th September 2020 | Show parent
  #991
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I like labeled parameters. A logical UI for layout and navigation. The ability to copy / paste envelopes, oscillators, or entire engines.

And I love having multiple data entry methods:

-- inc / dec buttons for stepping thru values
-- sliders for fast movement thru values
-- knobs
-- clicky data wheel (can be more fluid and precise than sliders or knobs)
-- buttons (to toggle with, like switching on/off an entire operator stack)
-- direct numerical entry of values

When I'm tweaking and experimenting with FM parameters, having different ways to input values really helps workflow and staying in the zone.

We all know that an FM sound can sometimes turn wildly on the smallest of value changes, so having intuitive ways to quickly audition various settings is priceless.
Old 31st October 2020
  #992
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The Most important thing for a FM Synth is the SOUND. Not only Features and Modulation Capabilities. modern FM Synths have lots possebilities but they sounded too clean ,dry or thin and does not have the interesting Sound Character of the older Yamaha FM synths , Syncclavier and so on.

So what must have the new Korg Opsix ?

-an interesting and colored Basic Soundcharacter

-a Function to reduce the interpolation or simulation of the older 12 Bit D/A Converters

- a Drive /Lowboost Function for the Filter/Amp

- 5-7 Stage Envelopes with Loop Parameter and Emulation of the original Yamaha Envelopes Characteristics.

-free routeable Operators like in Ni FM8

-Modsequencer , Parametermorphing for interesting Soundscapes.
Old 31st October 2020
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I want a new DS8.
Old 31st October 2020 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tapo200 ➡️
The Most important thing for a FM Synth is the SOUND. Not only Features and Modulation Capabilities. modern FM Synths have lots possebilities but they sounded too clean ,dry or thin and does not have the interesting Sound Character of the older Yamaha FM synths , Syncclavier and so on.

So what must have the new Korg Opsix ?

-an interesting and colored Basic Soundcharacter

-a Function to reduce the interpolation or simulation of the older 12 Bit D/A Converters

- a Drive /Lowboost Function for the Filter/Amp

- 5-7 Stage Envelopes with Loop Parameter and Emulation of the original Yamaha Envelopes Characteristics.

-free routeable Operators like in Ni FM8

-Modsequencer , Parametermorphing for interesting Soundscapes.
Not only 12-bit DACs, but also the ability to choose the bit depth/rate of the math calculations. Arturia's Synclavier plugin allows you to do this and also restrict the level of oversampling going on in the background to generate the FM tones. It sounds so much cooler when you really drop it down so even the math of the FM is primitive. You get artifacts that sound nice and crispy.
It's not the same when you have 12-bit DACs on the outputs but the calculations in the background are 24-bit floating point numbers with 44khz sampling rate. There's got to be lots of fun points in the signal path to introduce character.
Old 31st October 2020
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MegaFM has the makings of an intuitive interface for Yamaha-style FM, methinks:



It’s only 4 op, and the controls are small. But if you use the same approach on the (larger) panel of a 4-5 octave keyboard, you could expand to 6 sets of slightly bigger sliders (for 6 op FM), and maybe add a couple knobs to each set for additional control. And a screen if you want.
Old 31st October 2020 | Show parent
  #996
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Originally Posted by tapo200 ➡️
The Most important thing for a FM Synth is the SOUND. Not only Features and Modulation Capabilities. modern FM Synths have lots possebilities but they sounded too clean ,dry or thin and does not have the interesting Sound Character of the older Yamaha FM synths , Syncclavier and so on.

So what must have the new Korg Opsix ?

-an interesting and colored Basic Soundcharacter

-a Function to reduce the interpolation or simulation of the older 12 Bit D/A Converters

- a Drive /Lowboost Function for the Filter/Amp

- 5-7 Stage Envelopes with Loop Parameter and Emulation of the original Yamaha Envelopes Characteristics.

-free routeable Operators like in Ni FM8

-Modsequencer , Parametermorphing for interesting Soundscapes.
Korg could add a vacuum tube to it. They already like to do that with synths like the King Korg and previous Electribes.
Old 31st October 2020 | Show parent
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I think people would prefer a Super Volca FM in a Minilogue/Prologue format if poss. Knobby kinda in the Fm way, easy to adjust. Just a Super Volca FM. £500. Done.
I could definitely go for that... and on the vacuum tube idea that could be added pretty easy with their new tubes that you see on their Volca Nubass and Plankton Electronics' Spice. Could be around Wavestate in size too... (though I'd like larger - I'd larger on the Wavestate too...)
Old 1st November 2020 | Show parent
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I could definitely go for that... and on the vacuum tube idea that could be added pretty easy with their new tubes that you see on their Volca Nubass and Plankton Electronics' Spice. Could be around Wavestate in size too... (though I'd like larger - I'd larger on the Wavestate too...)
The Monologue XD will have the NuTubes probably.

Old 5th November 2020
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What i find cool is in NI FM8 you can Route very free the Operators together and you can draw your own Envelopes and Not Limited by ADSR Standards. And Morphing the Operators is also genius.

Old 7th November 2020
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https://www.sequencer.de/blog/korgs-...er-opsix/41943
Coming next week ...
Old 7th November 2020
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Old 7th November 2020
  #1002
Well, looks like someone has it up. https://www.emnordic.dk/produkter/ke...tered-fm-synth

I much preferred the original design! 37 keys seems to be a thing for Korg lately.





Old 7th November 2020
  #1003
From the site:

"The opsix represents a new and expansive reimagination of classic digital synthesis. Much like Korg did when bringing wave sequencing back in a more powerful, more musical, and more immediately accessible way with wavestate, so was the approach to FM sound generation of the opsix, resulting in another incredibly flexible and unique synth.

The opsix is an “altered” six-operator FM synthesizer. With its astoundingly accessible operator mixer and flexible sound engine that goes well beyond traditional FM, this instrument widens the potential of digital synthesizers to their utmost.

The opsix is an instrument for players of all generations—modern in every way, getting back to the basics to offer you a glimpse of the future. Whether you are new to synths, looking for a completely unique addition to your sound palate, or an original FM purist, opsix will deliver on all expectations and more.

- True six-operator FM synthesis

- FM exploration, easier than ever

- Full editing with the DATA ENTRY rotary encoders

- Five operator modes that expand FM synthesis

- 40 preset algorithms and user algorithms

- Three EGs, three LFOs and 12 virtual patches offer an extensive range of modulation.

- Eleven powerful filters, including MS-20 and Polysix.

- Three series of 30 types of high-definition effects.

- Visually-satisfying editing with a spectrum analyzer and oscilloscope.

- Powerful 16-step polyphonic sequencer

- Adding unpredictability to sounds with the Randomize feature

- Favorite and smooth sound transition (SST) functions.

- Compact design featuring a 37-key keyboard.

True six-operator FM synthesis, and more

The opsix is a new digital synthesizer that features our newly designed six-operator sound generator. Although the instrument has a six-operator FM sound structure like classic FM synthesizers, the opsix doesn't just reproduce their sounds—it totally reimagines them! With a diversity of waveforms, operator modes that go beyond the realm of FM, and a filter that brings together a fusion of subtractive synthesis, opsix makes tames complexities of FM so that you can focus on exploring sounds instead of programming them. Simply put, opsix offers the editing simplicity of analog synths to control the power of arguably the deepest type of digital synthesis.

FM exploration, easier than ever Musicians today use hardware-based digital synthesizers to achieve a level of operability that just cannot be found with software-based instruments. The six sets of knobs and sliders on the opsix panel, as well as the operator mixer, are symbolic of this fact. Korg’s volca FM was the first FM reimagination that helped to bring the most dynamic parameters of FM to the surface, and we expand upon that with opsix’s workflow.

The knobs and sliders with two-colored LEDs on the opsix let you quickly and clearly see the relationships between operators, whose roles change with each algorithm. This lets you make direct changes to the pitch and volume for carriers, and to the brightness of the sound or the strength of the harmonics for the modulators. These controls give you sonic control over the unpredictability of FM just by subtracting and adding sounds as if you were using a mixer or drawbars!

Full editing with the DATA ENTRY knobs

To add to the six operator mixers, the opsix features several knobs on the right side of the panel. Use the six DATA ENTRY knobs for full editing without minimizing or summarizing any information. Taking a look at these controls, you might think back to the days when traditional FM synths were more difficult to operate. Back then, you had to move through massive numbers of pages, and couldn’t figure out where you were in the overall scheme of things. Rest easy—with the opsix, we’ve taken away these worries. You can now edit without getting lost, thanks to the combination of six graphical parameters on the large OLED display at the center, and the rotary encoders.

The HOME/ALGO page is the starting page for everything on the opsix, and features major parameters including algorithms, EGs, and effects. Use this page with the operator mixer to get started with everything you need to do.

Five operator modes that expand FM synthesis

Of course, the opsix is a collection of everything appealing about FM synthesis... but that’s not all. Aside from sine waves, the opsix offers an expanded list of diverse waveforms in pursuit of sounds with even more complex harmonics, which can also be used as a subtractive synth offering simple filtering.

Operator modes on the opsix are used to generate sounds that are completely outside what a traditional FM sound generator can make. The operator modes let you create sounds using modulation other than FM. The opsix offers you a much wider range of sound creation, letting you combine the five operator modes (FM, ring modulation, filter, filter FM and wavefolder) and select from a wide range of waveforms.

40 preset algorithms and user algorithms

An algorithm is a combination of different operator roles and connections. The opsix goes far beyond classic FM synthesizers by offering 40 preset algorithmsand then goes on to offer a user algorithm function for exponentially greater sound possibilities which lets you construct and arrange an algorithm from scratch.

Wide range of modulation

The synthesis offered by the opsix is made even more powerful with the processors that come at the end of the signal chain. The MOD section works separate from the operators, with three EGs and three LFOs; and 12 virtual patches make a wide variety of routing possible. Use these features for a huge range of modulation to create swelling or add rapid motion to your sounds.

Powerful filters

In contrast to FM, the FILTER section follows your creation of sounds by offering analog synthesizer-like subtractive synthesis. Select from a full range of filters you want to use, from the radical MS-20 low-pass/high-pass filter, to the powerful yet soft Polysix low-pass filter that gives your sound a “vintage” feel; as well as two- or four-pole low-pass, high-pass, band-pass and band reject filters with resonance.

A treasure-trove of effects

The high-definition effects you’ll find on the opsix can be used right away in recording. The instrument offers three series (which can be used simultaneously) of 30 different effects; from including standard effects like a compressor, EQ, chorus, flanger, phaser and stereo delay, to distinctive effects like rotary speakers, grain shifters and more... as well as shimmering reverb effects that add a new dimensions to already awesome sounds.

Spectrum analyzer and oscilloscope

The analyzer built into the opsix is a must-have feature for visualizing FM synthesis. It shows output levels for each frequency band, so that you can see the distribution and changes to the harmonics at a glance that are caused by modulation. The opsix also features a built-in oscilloscope that lets you check the output waveforms. The colorful changes to the sound and visual feedback are sure to draw you into a deep “synthesizer vortex”!

Powerful 16-step polyphonic sequencer

The 16 buttons on the bottom right-hand part of the panel glow green with the colors that evoke FM synths, while providing you with a multipurpose 16-step sequencer. With this onboard polyphonic note sequencer, you can record up to six notes per step, and edit the velocity, gate time and playback timing for each note. This lets you create long phrases or make subtle shifts in timing to emulate strums or drum rolls, something that’s not possible on a typical 16-step sequencer. Also, the motion sequencer of the opsix lets you record changes of up to six parameters, creating smooth motion changes in sound within a phrase, or building rhythms that change dramatically with each step.

While the opsix has an easy-to-use 37-note keyboard, it also features a sequencer that rivals that of grooveboxes. Just press the PLAY button—you’ll be floored by the power that this sequencer lets you unleash.

Adding unpredictability to sounds with the Randomize feature

Use the Randomize feature as found on the wavestate if you’re in the mood for unexpected sonic discoveries. Press the button marked with the die icon to generate a newly randomized sound. You can use the Randomize feature for the entire sound, or just for the operators, the algorithm or the sequences. Use the randomized sounds as-is or edit them as you like—the sky’s the limit.

Free bundle of music software

The opsix comes with a diverse variety of music software from Izotope including “Ozone Elements” which lets you not only create songs but also master them using AI, “Skoove” which will help you improve your keyboard playing skills, “Reason Lite” DAW software, as well as software synths from KORG and other brands.

In other words, the moment you get your hands on this synthesizer you'll have a variety of tools to help you take your music to the next level.

Apps for iPad/iPhone

KORG Gadget 2 Le (music production studio DAW app)

KORG Module (piano/keyboard sound module app)

Software for Mac/Windows

KORG Collection - M1 Le (synthesizer sound module)

UVI Digital Synsations (synthesizer sound module)

AAS Ultra Analog Session (synthesizer sound module)

AAS Strum Session (acoustic guitar sound module)

AAS Lounge Lizard Session (electric piano sound module)

Reason Studios Reason Lite (DAW music production software)

Skoove free 3 month trial of Skoove Premium (online piano lesson)

KORG Gadget 2 Le for Mac (DAW music production software)

iZotope Ozone Elements (Audio Mastering Plug-in Software)"
Old 7th November 2020
  #1004
Specifications:

Keyboard: 37 keys (velocity and release-velocity sensitive)

Maximum Polyphony:32 voices (or a max. of 24 voices, depending on the settings)

Sound generating system: Altered FM sound generator

Structure: 6 operators, 1 filter, 3 EGs, 3 LFOs, 3 effects, step sequencer, arpeggiator

Algorithm: 40 presets + user algorithm (unique to each program)

Operator: 5 modes (FM, Ring Mod., Filter, Filter FM, Wave Folder)

Oscillator waveform: 21 waveforms (Sine, Sine 12bit, Sine 8bit, Triangle, Saw, Saw HD, Square, Square HD, Additive Saw3, Additive Sqr3, Additive Tri3, Additive 12345, Additive 1+2, Additive 1+3, Additive 1+4, Additive 1+5, Additive 1+6, Additive 1+7, Additive 1+8, Noise S/H, Noise White)

Filter: 11 types (LPF 12, LPF 24, LPF MS-20, LPF POLY6, HPF 12, HPF 24, HPF MS-20, BPF 6, BPF 12, BRF 6, BRF 12)

EG: ADSR

LFO: 23 waveforms (Triangle, Saw Down, Saw Up, Square, Sine, Sample&Hold, Guitar, Exp. Triangle, Exp. Saw Down, Exp. Saw Up, Step4 Triangle, Step6 Triangle, Step4 Saw Down, Step6 Saw Down, StepRnd:Time, StepRnd:Lvl&Time, StepRnd:Level, Random:Time, Random:Lvl&Time, Triangle + , Saw Down + , Saw Up + , Square +)

V.Patch: 12 routings

Effect: 30 types (Chorus, Unison Ensemble, Phaser, Phaser (BPM) , Auto Pan, Auto Pan (BPM), Flanger, Flanger (BPM) , Rotary Speaker, Auto Wah, Exciter, Enhancer, LFO Filter, 3-Band EQ, Distortion, Guitar Amp, Decimator, Grain Shifter, Master Limiter, Compressor, Delay, Delay (BPM) , Autopan Dly, Autopan Dly (BPM), Tape Echo, Tape Echo (BPM) , Early Reflection, Reverb, Shimmer Reverb, Spring Reverb)

Sequencer: Step Sequencer (up to 16 steps, up to 6 notes per step) , Motion Sequencer (up to 6 lanes)

Arpeggiator: 7 patterns (MANUAL, UP, DOWN, ALT1, ALT2, RANDOM, TRIGGER) fault)

Number of programs:500 (250 preset programs and 250 user programs as the factory-set de

FAVORITE: 64 (16 Slots × 4 Banks)

Controllers:MODULATION wheel, PITCH wheel, RATIO OP 1–6 knobs, LEVEL OP 1–6 sliders, DATA ENTRY A–F knobs

Inputs/outputs: Headphone (6.3 mm stereo phone jack), OUTPUT L/MONO and R (impedance-balanced 6.3 mm TRS phone jacks), DAMPER (6.3 mm phone jack, half-damper not supported), MIDI IN and OUT connectors, USB B port

Power supply: AC adapter (DC12V)

Power consumption: 5 W

Dimensions (W × D × H): 565 × 338 × 90 mm / 22.24" × 13.31" × 3.54"

Weight: 2.9 kg / 6.93 lbs.

Included items:AC adapter, Precautions, Quick Start Guide

Accessories (sold separately): DS-1H damper pedal
Old 7th November 2020 | Show parent
  #1005
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What i find cool is in NI FM8 you can Route very free the Operators together and you can draw your own Envelopes and Not Limited by ADSR Standards. And Morphing the Operators is also genius.

Yeah, just for the record: even TG77 / SS77 released in 1989 has freely routable operators (the algoritms are just presets) and very detailed envelopes.


This OPSIX is a modern SY77 reissue, likely in most respects a lot better, probably not all.
Old 7th November 2020
  #1006
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Looks great. Let's hear it.
Old 7th November 2020 | Show parent
  #1007
That actually looks really awesome.
Old 7th November 2020
  #1008
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3 octaves It's like they don't want anyone to actually play it, just like the Wavestate. 5 octave version, please!
Old 7th November 2020 | Show parent
  #1009
I'd be more into a 3 octave version (and will probably eventually get a Wavestate too) but yeah, it seems really silly there's not a 5 octave version of either synth.
Old 7th November 2020
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Or a desktop.
Old 7th November 2020
  #1011
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If that's the same size as the wavestate, the controls should already be perfect for a 4U rack module/desktop combo.. but will Korg actually listen
Old 7th November 2020
  #1012
Not enough keys. I'm out
Edit looks like no aftertouch either. For anyone wanting a modern dx7 replacement, this ain't it
Old 7th November 2020
  #1013
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we want volca size.

ah there are pictures above, not seen at all. disappointing compared to the prototype.
after all, he has supersaw fm.
Old 7th November 2020 | Show parent
  #1014
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Insane set of features. Fills in the gap between old school units and essenceFM. Six ops with custom algos, all those waveforms, filters and LFO's!
Old 7th November 2020
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I’m usually not a stickler for keys at this price point, but for the first time, I’m bothered. Neo Soul, Lofi, Synthwave and 80’s revival music are popular right now. These genres use FM sounds regularly, and oft-times “keys players” producing or performing in this space. A modern DX/SY was something many people have been looking forward to.

But three octaves and no aftertouch? With all of this modulation available? Strange. And unless I read past it, but no stack/layer? Seems odd considering all the polyphony. Hope I misunderstood. Also reads a bit menu-divey?

Seems a bit out of step with what the consumer would want in a hardware FM synth atm. I’m very sure it’ll sound great, as Korg often homers on sound quality and design. But I’m getting the same kinda vibe with this as I did with the Wavestate (which could’ve been the staple Vapourwave Hardware synth).

Looking forward to the demos!
Old 7th November 2020
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Should be less menu divey than DX7.
Old 7th November 2020 | Show parent
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Should be less menu divey than DX7.
No doubt about that for the basic programming, dx7 is nearly all menu driven although I use software to program mine these days
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Should be less menu divey than DX7.
*Vietnam War flashbacks intensifies*
Old 7th November 2020 | Show parent
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FM synths lend themselves well to subtle modulations, so I'm surprised to see no aftertouch, indeed polyphonic aftertouch would be awesome on an FM synth.

And too few keys to interest me. A desktop module that responds to (poly)aftertouch/ MPE would definitely tempt me.

Having said that, I think it will sell well and I look forward to hearing it.
Old 7th November 2020
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This looks really good to me. I think I could get this and a Digitone and not really have too much overlap. Was the cost mentioned anywhere?

I'm sad about no aftertouch (Korg strikes again), but release velocity seems cool.
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