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Behringer Model D or Roland SE-02
Old 31st July 2017
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Behringer Model D or Roland SE-02

What do you prefer (not asking what not prefer here): Behringer Model D or Roland SE-2?
Old 31st July 2017
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i'm waiting for the Behringer. I reall want those patchpoints. It will be a good and cheap Eurorack startingpoint for me.
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Originally Posted by Analog Prophet ➑️
What do you prefer (not asking what not prefer here): Behringer Model D or Roland SE-2?
Your question is the very question i have! Additionally i consider the MFB Dominion Club.

I didn't made up my mind yet. As far as i can see and hear it, the SE-02 still has some issues. I like the behavior of the OSCs and envelopes of the BMMD prototype very much. A patch memory, parameter lock and (very important for me) a sequencer with glide options are big plus points for the SE-02 and for the MFB Dominion Club.

I want to have "that" Moog sound im my studio. I guess the BMMD is the quite best option to get it. On the other hand, patch memory and having more sound design options, is attractive for me, too.

HRRGGHHH - HRRRMMPPP! So hard to decide! I will wait until the products are completed and available.
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Originally Posted by Looping Loddar ➑️
Your question is the very question i have! Additionally i consider the MFB Dominion Club.
Me too! I think I'm going to hang fire until all 3 are available and then get one after hopefully being able to try them all (not sure I'll be abe able to try the MFB here). It's very hard to resist pre-ordering the SE-02 though! I think I'll probably prefer either the Roland or the MFB because of the patch memory.
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Originally Posted by Analog Prophet ➑️
What do you prefer (not asking what not prefer here): Behringer Model D or Roland SE-2?
To answer this question, i would have to have both here and compare everything.
So i'll answer a slightly different question:
Out of all sound clips i listened to and videos i watched, i am more impressed by Behringer D sound and by features on Roland SE-02 (except its size).
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Originally Posted by Prophet Analogue
What do you prefer (not asking what not prefer here): Behringer Model D or Roland SE-2?
It hurts, doesn't it?

Shelling out 4000 EUR for a piece of machinery one can now get for 400 and nail 95% of the sounds.
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I like the sound, features and price so much, that I'll get SE-02 first, and then after a while, I'll get SE-02.
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I'll be getting the Behringer D, I already have enough analog Monosynths so to get another it has to be something special. The Behringer sounds like a Minimoog and that makes me want it, especially with the great pricing

The SE-02 is just a poor design with all the teeny tiny knobs, some of the demo videos floating around really showcase the small knob issue, it is also overpriced in my opinion
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It hurts, doesn't it?

Shelling out 4000 EUR for a piece of machinery one can now get for 400 and nail 95% of the sounds.
Well, it won't replace my Model D Reissue (or my Voyager) - but who said one is enough? Come on, release the break and hit the pedal to the metal - this is Gearslutz

To me the Behringer Model appeal as it makes multi chain possible. To get a polyphonic Model D out of some few Behringer clones, for a resonable price tag, sounds very tempting to me.
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Of course, one can never have enough Minimoogs.

I still worry if tests make them indistinguishable what will happen to second hand market. Because i know what happened when Voyager came out. Prices of originals went up because it sounded nothing like a Mini.
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Behringer.

Absolutely and without a doubt, the Behringer Model D.

Why? The analog pots don't step. The modular-style jacks. The rocker switches. The larger knobs with more air. The slightly wider panel. Highpass. The liberating lack of patch storage. The Minimoog-like panel. Clone vs a digitally enhanced reimagining. The cheaper price.
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I'm also torn between those two but I will wait for the finished products and comparison demos!
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Of course, one can never have enough Minimoogs.

I still worry if tests make them indistinguishable what will happen to second hand market. Because i know what happened when Voyager came out. Prices of originals went up because it sounded nothing like a Mini.
If indistinguishable sound - AND experience, no one will be more happy than me - extremely nice. I don't care about the price of the second hand market as I'm not a collector or trophy hunter but a passionted user, the value is the same to me regardless pricetag. Release the Model D sound to the people and make a joyful analog noise instead of all that dxxxtal pollution that kills all good music today.
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Im thinking neither...but I know Ill buy the behri...itll be after a couple of beers scouring the internet, and its so cheap Ill buy it in three or four payments (like everyone offers now) and convince myself it cost nothing
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Model D for me. Even though I own two - soon to be three - Boutiques and even though I preordered the SE-02, the YouTube videos leave me feeling that it's harsh. I know it can do clean sounds but it seems that it is an exception and not representative of its character.

Model D, however, just seems like it's one huge sweet spot from the little I've heard of it. I'll never know for sure about either synth until they're in my possession but I'm not thinking the SE-02 and me are going to be BFF.

Edit: I just read a few posts above that the Model D has no patch storage. Looks like I'll be passing on it then.
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Will they both do polychaining?
I know about the SE-02 doing it.
Any word about the Behringer D?
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Behringer.

Absolutely and without a doubt, the Behringer Model D.

Why? The analog pots don't step. The modular-style jacks. The rocker switches. The larger knobs with more air. The slightly wider panel. Highpass. The liberating lack of patch storage. The Minimoog-like panel. Clone vs a digitally enhanced reimagining. The cheaper price.
Huh ? Where ?
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Behringer D. At that price its a steal and I dont have any 3 oscillator analog monos, so...
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Behringer D for sure
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I'll be getting the Behringer D, I already have enough analog Monosynths so to get another it has to be something special. The Behringer sounds like a Minimoog and that makes me want it, especially with the great pricing

The SE-02 is just a poor design with all the teeny tiny knobs, some of the demo videos floating around really showcase the small knob issue, it is also overpriced in my opinion
Are the knobs really any bigger on the behringer than the roland? It looks like they are exactly the same size to me.

The behringer definitely sounds more moogy but the se-02 has patch storage which is a must for me in 2017.
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Will they both do polychaining?
I know about the SE-02 doing it.
Any word about the Behringer D?
I didn't knew SE-02 is doing that. Behringer Model D has poly chain (multi chain)
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https://www.roland.com/global/products/se-02/
About halfway down after the video
Create a polyphonic synth by using Chain Mode to connect two or more SE-02s together via MIDI



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I didn't knew SE-02 is doing that. Behringer Model D has poly chain (multi chain)
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Behringer D here. Sounds like at least 90% of my Model D's sound in a small, "expendable" box. Hey, it's also expandable! I'm so funny.
Anyway, that's priceless for most of the sound (final release will likely be closer) at none of the price and preciousness... my precious....
At home, it can be a slave to the real thing, and maybe Santa will bring me another one so that I can have 3 voices.... though the polyphony dream would actually add up to a bit of a toll on the wallet, and seems like a dream for the sake of the dream itself.
The roland has been rubbing me the wrong way lately, with its small knobs and digital enhancements. I feel like I think that it's a good cheap synth must-have, but I'd never use it. Kind of like my microkorg xl+, in terms of the fiddly knobs and interface and features that are cool but alienate due to the small, plastic, toy-sized interface and cumbersomeness.
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https://www.roland.com/global/products/se-02/
About halfway down after the video
Create a polyphonic synth by using Chain Mode to connect two or more SE-02s together via MIDI
Cool
Old 31st July 2017
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I absolutely prefer the one that's available today. It's obviously the best. I can put the two of them side by side right now, and even Stevie Wonder can see which one is the best. And Ray Charles agrees with him.
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I'd say both....eventually.

Frankly there are other synths that are a higher priority for me. Namely the 0-Coast and Softpop.
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Originally Posted by DiggingForRoots ➑️
Are the knobs really any bigger on the behringer than the roland? It looks like they are exactly the same size to me.

The behringer definitely sounds more moogy but the se-02 has patch storage which is a must for me in 2017.
It's not really the size of the knobs, it's the spacing between them...
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Are the knobs really any bigger on the behringer than the roland? It looks like they are exactly the same size to me.

The behringer definitely sounds more moogy but the se-02 has patch storage which is a must for me in 2017.
The Behringer Unit is a bit larger and has less knobs and buttons meaning they are spaced farther apart

The main issue with the SE-02 is the the tiny knobs are so close together they are hard to turn without bumping into other knobs



watch what happens with this reviewer just after the 2 minute mark, he has to stop playing to adjust a knob and almost knocks the unit over bumping one knob while turning another, you can hear the frustration in his voice

I own every Volca, a couple Monotribes, every Monotron, a bunch of synths with minikeys, I even own other Roland Boutique Gear, I'm used to small gear with small keys and knobs, but the SE-02 looks like a frustrating user experience
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I wasn't down with the Behringer D sound until I heard Firechild's song. Still hard to tell though since he uses effects, but it sounded 100x better than that terrible show demo. Other than that, I think I still prefer the SE-02 but we will wait to see when more people get the Behringer.
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I won't be buying either soon but eventually I'll (probably) get the SE-02. I've had nothing but bad luck with Behringer gear and I'm not really interested in what's old- clones and the like. So whether or not Behringer accurately recreate the Moog is not important to me. The SE-02 seems fun, modern, but might be uncomfortably small so I'll need to try it in person before purchasing.
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