Deepmind 12 Soft thru not working?

MagicalStephen 🎙️ · 16th July 2017

Sorry to post technical question out of frustration, but can't see what I'm doing wrong...

What am I trying to do?
- Pass Midi from DM12 to Access Virus using Soft MIDI Thru

What have I done to achieve this?
- Turned MIDI>USB-THRU to ON in settings (and every other MIDI / THRU option as well, but this should be the one that makes it work)
- I've tried going stratight from the DM12 to the Virus using MIDI OUT socket. That's fine. So cable is ok and synth can send midi.

But thru not working, any ideas??!

goony · 16th July 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicalStephen ➡️

Sorry to post technical question out of frustration, but can't see what I'm doing wrong...

What am I trying to do?
- Pass Midi from DM12 to Access Virus using Soft MIDI Thru

What have I done to achieve this?
- Turned MIDI>USB-THRU to ON in settings (and every other MIDI / THRU option as well, but this should be the one that makes it work)
- I've tried going stratight from the DM12 to the Virus using MIDI OUT socket. That's fine. So cable is ok and synth can send midi.

But thru not working, any ideas??!

Midi Settings

SOFT-THRU - This option enables PASS-THRU mode from the MIDI INPUT socket to the MIDI OUTPUT socket should be ON (nothing to do with USB thru) - ensure midi channels are correct for both synths.

Behrmoog · 17th July 2017

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Originally Posted by goony ➡️

Midi Settings

SOFT-THRU - This option enables PASS-THRU mode from the MIDI INPUT socket to the MIDI OUTPUT socket.

I wasn't aware of this mode. Seems that it even merges the incoming with the local midi data (will test it). And it can be switched on independently for Midi Din, USB and Wifi.

Kudos to Behringer.
So should it be, very practicable.

Oh Lord, if I think about my DSI Rev2, several unpracticable points.

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MagicalStephen 🎙️ · 17th July 2017

@ Behrmoog : Yes, it seems very flexible, if only I could get it to work.
@ goony : thanks, but I'm not trying to do soft MIDI THRU (ie, MIDI - MIDI). I am trying to do USB MIDI IN to DIN MIDI THRU out. (ie, use the DM12 as a USB to MIDI convertor for a synth that only has MIDI (din) sockets). It should be poss, but not working yet. I'll double check the MIDI channels though, that might be it.

Behrmoog · 17th July 2017

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Originally Posted by MagicalStephen ➡️

I am trying to do USB MIDI IN to DIN MIDI THRU out. (ie, use the DM12 as a USB to MIDI convertor for a synth that only has MIDI (din) sockets).

Nice application of the DM12. Don't thought about such.

According to diagram on page 18, this should be possible.

Should be parameter "USB>MIDI-THRU".
But the signal goes to Midi out not to Midi thru.
Perhaps you used Midi thru?

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goony · 17th July 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicalStephen ➡️

@ Behrmoog : Yes, it seems very flexible, if only I could get it to work.
@ goony : thanks, but I'm not trying to do soft MIDI THRU (ie, MIDI - MIDI). I am trying to do USB MIDI IN to DIN MIDI THRU out. (ie, use the DM12 as a USB to MIDI convertor for a synth that only has MIDI (din) sockets). It should be poss, but not working yet. I'll double check the MIDI channels though, that might be it.

You have to use the Midi Din socket not usb..

MagicalStephen 🎙️ · 17th July 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Behrmoog ➡️

Should be parameter "USB>MIDI-THRU".
But the signal goes to Midi out not to Midi thru.
Perhaps you used Midi thru?

Bingo!! That was it - I had it going from the MIDI THRU socket, not the MIDI OUT.

But the manual is wrong - it says 'USB>MIDI-THRU - This option enables PASS-THRU mode from the USB port to the MIDI-THRU socket. The options are On or Off'

@ goony - USB in, MIDI out. It's possible and the manual is wrong! Who would have guessed that?

Anyway, thanks for the assistance guys, much appreciated.

This is track I did with the DM12 the other day. All the analogue stuff is DM12. I think there are some nice bits!
https://soundcloud.com/olifreke/late...unrise/s-vD0N7

adamstan · 17th July 2017

Soft-THRU would suggest using Midi OUT to me too - as THRU socket is often just hardwired (possibly with some buffering) to midi IN.

MagicalStephen 🎙️ · 18th July 2017

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Originally Posted by adamstan ➡️

Soft-THRU would suggest using Midi OUT to me too - as THRU socket is often just hardwired (possibly with some buffering) to midi IN.

I wouldn't mind but the manual says to use the THRU socket!

adamstan · 18th July 2017

It may be good idea to post at Behringer Deep Mind support forum, so they correct the obviously wrong manual - AFAIK it's download only, so easier to update/correct than the printed one.

MagicalStephen 🎙️ · 18th July 2017

Yes, am gonna do that, for sure.

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