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  #9661
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Dream on
Have you tried behringer model d?
Old 12th December 2022 | Show parent
  #9662
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Have you tried behringer model d?
I sits next to the vintage brother ..
Old 12th December 2022 | Show parent
  #9663
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Originally Posted by sunny pedaal ➡️
I sits next to the vintage brother ..
Which differencies do you find between them in terms of sound?
Old 12th December 2022 | Show parent
  #9664
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Originally Posted by Stergios T. ➡️
Which differencies do you find between them in terms of sound?
the original starts to saturate the sound pleasantly once you set the OSC levels past 12 o'clock- the Behri clone starts jus to sound badly distorted instead. Same with their pro-1 clone, btw
Old 12th December 2022 | Show parent
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Which differencies do you find between them in terms of sound?
In the mid range they are almost identical
The low end the vintage one is more strong/ better defined, the high has more air and the filter especially when fm’d of the original has that nice chrisping edge
The boog sure give a lot of model d for very little money, the old one still is one of the best monosynths available

Besides afcourse the whole boog feels more like a toy compared to the model d orginal , with it’s cheap little knobs and little space overall
But having said this , i don’take my original out, but i do take the boog to jam sessions and/ or friends .
Old 13th December 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by sunny pedaal ➡️
In the mid range they are almost identical
The low end the vintage one is more strong/ better defined, the high has more air and the filter especially when fm’d of the original has that nice chrisping edge
The boog sure give a lot of model d for very little money, the old one still is one of the best monosynths available

Besides afcourse the whole boog feels more like a toy compared to the model d orginal , with it’s cheap little knobs and little space overall
But having said this , i don’take my original out, but i do take the boog to jam sessions and/ or friends .
Iam thinking of buying a boog and modificate-upgrade it. I have a great tech who offers modification for the boogs and make it sounding much closer to the original. He replaces the caps, power supply and he also does some other mods and he improves the sound:better highs, more defined low end etc.. I think that i ll try it.
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Originally Posted by Stergios T. ➡️
Iam thinking of buying a boog and modificate-upgrade it. I have a great tech who offers modification for the boogs and make it sounding much closer to the original. He replaces the caps, power supply and he also does some other mods and he improves the sound:better highs, more defined low end etc.. I think that i ll try it.
Sounds interesting!
Do you have a link or sound examples that shiw the differences?
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Sounds interesting!
Do you have a link or sound examples that shiw the differences?
I don't know if he has any comparison files. I ll ask him.
He doesn't even have a site or something similar. He spents time only on synths and synths repairs, not on the marketing. 😛.
I may find a stock behringer and make some sound comparisons myself.
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Originally Posted by Stergios T. ➡️
I don't know if he has any comparison files. I ll ask him.
He doesn't even have a site or something similar. He spents time only on synths and synths repairs, not on the marketing. 😛.
I may find a stock behringer and make some sound comparisons myself.
I haven't really read about enhancing the sound itself on the model D. I know about the mods from. Maffez and friends but thats more about parameter mods and less about the sound itself.

Anyways, keep us updated! I'd really like to hear it
Old 14th December 2022 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by MonoTron ➡️
I haven't really read about enhancing the sound itself on the model D. I know about the mods from. Maffez and friends but thats more about parameter mods and less about the sound itself.

Anyways, keep us updated! I'd really like to hear it
Not entirely true. I've implemented many of Maffez's mods, and hence I now have OSC sync, OSC pwm, paraphonic behaviour. Definitely a totally different sound !
Old 14th December 2022 | Show parent
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Not entirely true. I've implemented many of Maffez's mods, and hence I now have OSC sync, OSC pwm, paraphonic behaviour. Definitely a totally different sound !
Sounds like parameter or functional mods to me
But off course you're right, they do alter or enhance the sound.

The mods @ Ster gios is mentioning are more signal path and power supply mods that dont alter functions bit are solely for better sound quality, better sounding internal distortion and headroom etc
Old 4 weeks ago | Show parent
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Sounds like parameter or functional mods to me
But off course you're right, they do alter or enhance the sound.

The mods @ Ster gios is mentioning are more signal path and power supply mods that dont alter functions bit are solely for better sound quality, better sounding internal distortion and headroom etc
Exactly
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Bad Gear?

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Bad Gear?

I'd never rely on opinions by influencers or wanna be experts.
Old 3 weeks ago | Show parent
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I'd never rely on opinions by influencers or wanna be experts.
Watch the video before commenting.
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Watch the video before commenting.
I did - hence the comment
Old 3 weeks ago | Show parent
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Dream on
I own both and find very little difference.
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Originally Posted by norfolk martin ➡️
I own both and find very little difference.
Me too
Maybe my speakers are better ?
Old 1 week ago | Show parent
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Hi. Dont know if this already has been discussed in this thread, but does the Behringer Model D have hardware or software envelopes?

Anyone? Anyone?
Old 1 week ago | Show parent
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Hi. Dont know if this already has been discussed in this thread, but does the Behringer Model D have hardware or software envelopes?

Anyone? Anyone?
The envelopes are hardware-- the same exact design as the original, too, using (gasp!) discrete transistors.
Old 1 week ago | Show parent
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The envelopes are hardware-- the same exact design as the original, too, using (gasp!) discrete transistors.
How nice, as I suspected.
(I am so free spirited, I dont give a damn about discrete transistors... :-0 )
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Originally Posted by howardcano ➡️
The envelopes are hardware-- the same exact design as the original, too, using (gasp!) discrete transistors.
The same exact design might be, except for the pots. They are somewhat unresponsive in some parts. For instance it's difficult to set a specific time in the zone between 0,6 and 1 second if I recall correctly. Exchanging those pots is doable but I do not know where to find them in Europe (except within the UK, but the shipping and customs costs are too high nowadays)
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Originally Posted by NewIgnis ➡️
The same exact design might be, except for the pots. They are somewhat unresponsive in some parts. For instance it's difficult to set a specific time in the zone between 0,6 and 1 second if I recall correctly. Exchanging those pots is doable but I do not know where to find them in Europe (except within the UK, but the shipping and customs costs are too high nowadays)
They definitely don't make potentiometers like they used to! Good ones are quite expensive now.
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