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Hello all - please help me with my "you gots no choice" setup
Old 26th January 2009
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Hello all - please help me with my "you gots no choice" setup

So I have my setup in the living room for the forseeable future and want to make the best of what I have.

I'm doing most stuff with cans, but need to regularly reference through the speakers.

The room itself is a 4 metres x 2.5 ish long/rectangular L-shape with sea grass carpet tiles, moroccan cotton rug, and lots of large heavy cushions at "sofa height".

The sloped mansard roof/ceiling runs the entire length of 1 side, cut by 2 double-glazed sash windows. Walls are bare.

NB - My desk is at one end - I can't put my desk anywhere else due to the "ergonomics" of the room.

Rear-ported speakers are about 30cm from the wall. Angle is nowhere near "equilateral triangle" - The rear of the right speaker is pointing at a corner in the sloping Mansard roof.

The floor is more or less "floating", but very flexible undefoot.

I'm losing Bottom end at the listening position, but if I stand 2 metres further away I get a great balance - but i have short arms, and no iPhone/Pro Tools remote control

I also have some flutter echoes in the middle of the room, but very minimal at the desk. I do get a bit of reflection off the back wall, but I can record acoustic gtr and vox with a supercardioid 6 inches away no problem. I'm about to buy a reflexion filter.

Please would you advise what materials I need to put behind the speakers and desk to improve it?
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Old 26th January 2009
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Pretty much all you can do is straddle as many of those corners, up front, as much as possible. what is going on behind you?

Glenn
Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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Hi Glenn,

Directly behind is the back wall about 4 metres back - This is bare.

Left side - Bare wall - All the soft furnishing I mentioned is also to my left... There is a gap about 1.5m further down on the left (i.e where the L-shape bit starts)

Right side - A vertical double glazed sash window immediately to my right , and as mentioned the sloping ceiling continues with a break for another window.

So "straddling the corners up front" - is that with bass trapping or panels? And do you mean physically level with the front of the desk?

thanks
Old 26th January 2009 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by Blast9 ➑️
So "straddling the corners up front" - is that with bass trapping or panels?
Bass traps. Not just the front, but as many corners as possible. Rear wall too. Straddling as in the photo below.

--Ethan

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Great - Thanks Ethan (I've been reading your acoustics page today)
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Directly behind is the back wall about 4 metres back - This is bare.
If you can put some THICK absorption on that back wall.

Quote:
Not just the front, but as many corners as possible.
My bad, thought he could not treat the back corners.

Glenn
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Thanks Glenn - will it have to cover the entire wall or can I use a few thick acoustic tiles eg in horizontal strips?
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Thanks Glenn - will it have to cover the entire wall or can I use a few thick acoustic tiles eg in horizontal strips?
The more you cover the better the response, but start with 2 or 3 and see how it goes. You don't have to cover the whole wall for it to work well.

Glenn
Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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Here is another example of strudelin the corner

Hope this helps
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Old 27th January 2009 | Show parent
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oh dear NURSE!

(is that an apple mac strudel?)
Old 27th January 2009
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I'm losing Bottom end at the listening position, but if I stand 2 metres further away I get a great balance - but i have short arms, and no iPhone/Pro Tools remote control
Any reason why you can't move the whole listening position back? I mean, 38% is the same from the front wall or the back...

Frank
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Hey Frank - same old problem - it is a living space that I need to "blend into" (yeah right)

Forgive me but I'm new to all this - Is 38% along a room's length the ideal placement for the mix position?

EDIT - just did a search - reading up now
Old 28th January 2009 | Show parent
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Is 38% along a room's length the ideal placement for the mix position?
It's a great starting point anyway. More here:

How to set up a room

--Ethan
Old 28th January 2009 | Show parent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blast9 ➑️

Is 38% along a room's length the ideal placement for the mix position?

EDIT - just did a search - reading up now
It is a great place to start but you may find that moving forward or back will give you better results.


Glenn
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