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Old 13th September 2010
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Talking New Midas Venice F-16 series

Don't know who's seen these but they look pretty hot. If the sonics are as good as the current models and the features are better at a reasonable price, this is a win for everyone, like me, who likes these boards.
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Old 13th September 2010
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Looks nice, especially the 100mm faders.
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Wow. I wonder if it's made in the same factory as the previous Venice. I believe it's a Bosch factory in Germany. I love the old Venice. Built like a tank and great sounding. Hope this isn't from the Behringer factory...
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Originally Posted by rrraaalllfff ➑️
Wow. I wonder if it's made in the same factory as the previous Venice. I believe it's a Bosch factory in Germany. I love the old Venice. Built like a tank and great sounding. Hope this isn't from the Behringer factory...
A closeup of the back panel (on the website) says "Made in England"
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reminds me that I would love to see more midas desks live..... why does everybody buy rahter crappy low-end mixers if they could rent the good stuff and get much better overall results?
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A closeup of the back panel (on the website) says "Made in England"
Aha, yes, good catch. Hope it stays that way and that it's not just a couple of early models made in England and the rest of the mass production moved to china.

(Please no "what's wrong with china" replies, thanx.)
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32x32 firewire : interesting!!!!!
Old 13th September 2010
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Midas Venice F-series

How much is it?
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afaik they haven't sent out a press release yet with pricing. A contact at Midas North America alerted me as soon as they posted the web page.

I've asked some questions about price, availability, manual, is Firewire built-in or an option, etc. I'll pass on what I learn.

The preamps are apparently "new". I don't know if that's good or bad. I have a Venice 160 and the preamps are great.
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They're at PLASA at the moment. I'll get some info tomorrow...
Any other questions?
Old 14th September 2010 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by valthesoundman ➑️
They're at PLASA at the moment. I'll get some info tomorrow...
Any other questions?
Are the direct outs switchable pre/post fader?
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thatΒ΄s what i call an audio interface. the new mbox from midas. WOW! CanΒ΄t wait for the converter specs..and the price. Hope the drivers will be stable otherwise we have to keep the old venice plus rme setups ?...
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Re: Midas Venice F-series

Looks good! Better metering would have been nice.

Any price estimates and yes what about the converters.


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Old 16th September 2010 | Show parent
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Bumping this. Anybody has some newer info?


I was about to get one of the old Venices as a swiss-army-knife tool and was very dissapointed when told they were discountinued. But this F version is just too good. The Venices were great little consoles with high-class sonics and a staple in many first class studios for their C/D/writing rooms, not mentioning hundreds of small theaters and venues.


Now with 100mm faders, XL3 parametric EQ and the better routing, ergonomics and layout what was great turned into something even better.
I don't expect much from the firewire and A/D/A converters to be honest, but hope the pres are not worse and Behringer had nothing to do with the new mixer (other than financial support), so it's still built to the same MIDAS specs and reliability.
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Are the direct outs switchable pre/post fader?
Yes I believe so (a few options).

-T
Old 16th September 2010 | Show parent
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I just saw that my old venice 160 has 4 faders for the monitor sends 1 2 and fx 1 2 returns. But the new one has one yellow masterfader more...I think this could be the mono out. Not important but different. When I would start again I would just choose an Thinkad w510 quad core notebook, a good daw, this venicef and something for the master inserts. Readyheh
Old 17th September 2010 | Show parent
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Looks Good

wow,

I've got the "I want it" syndrome now.

I wonder how much?
Old 18th September 2010 | Show parent
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I hate it!!!!

I want one!
Old 18th September 2010 | Show parent
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I just noticed that the new 16ch VeniceF-16 weighs 51.8lbs/23.5kg and the Venice160 weighs 36.2lbs/16.2kgs.

It seems that the parts are not being reduced or downgraded and that gives me hope that the Venice line will continue to have excellent sonics. And here's another indicator; it will have four band XL3 EQ with sweep and Q controls on the midbands.
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Talking

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Originally Posted by valthesoundman ➑️
They're at PLASA at the moment. I'll get some info tomorrow...
Any other questions?


Any updates?

Thanks,
Rob
Old 18th September 2010 | Show parent
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price

The guy said it will be around 3500 - 3700 GBP
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The guy said it will be around 3500 - 3700 GBP

which version?
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I just noticed that the new 16ch VeniceF-16 weighs 51.8lbs/23.5kg and the Venice160 weighs 36.2lbs/16.2kgs.

It seems that the parts are not being reduced or downgraded and that gives me hope that the Venice line will continue to have excellent sonics. And here's another indicator; it will have four band XL3 EQ with sweep and Q controls on the midbands.
I don't think Midas will make any console that doesn't sound good... seriously...
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what about latency if you would use firewire option and plugins as inserts in a live situation?
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I don't think Midas will make any console that doesn't sound good... seriously...
I also thought that until they were bought by the Music Group (Berhinger). For me this Venice revision was a test of hope, and it seems they have aced it.
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I don't think Midas will make any console that doesn't sound good... seriously...
Midas will do whatever their owners say or they will sell the name off.
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Midas will do whatever their owners say or they will sell the name off.
I agree, but my understanding this one was on the drawing board before the new owners! That said I have a hard time listening to pictures so the jury is still out!
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I also thought that until they were bought by the Music Group (Berhinger). For me this Venice revision was a test of hope, and it seems they have aced it.
I didn't know that... and I'm really sorry to hear/read it...

I said what I said because everything I used from Midas/Klark sounded good and was VERY well built. I used from Venice to XLs on FOH and I really liked.

Now with Behringer in command... I don't know anymore.
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I didn't know that... and I'm really sorry to hear/read it...

I said what I said because everything I used from Midas/Klark sounded good and was VERY well built. I used from Venice to XLs on FOH and I really liked.

Now with Behringer in command... I don't know anymore.
We know Berhinger has the checkbook, but Uli may want them to run their own show. As long as they're allowed to design and improve the products things will be fine.

This redesign looks like a winner. It has XL4 EQs. It has per-ch phase invert. They say buss structure remains intact. It has 100mm faders. The F16 model weighs 16lbs/7kgs more than the Venice 160. I can't wait to hear it!
Old 20th September 2010 | Show parent
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Smile

Imagine summing your mixes through it and adding it's EQ as well.
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